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Old 01-13-2009, 05:20 PM
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Who didn't see this coming?..

H. J. Res. 5: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second...

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Sponsor: Rep. José Serrano [D-NY](no cosponsors)

Status: Introduced Jan 6, 2009

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
The Lamb of Chicago has a few days before his 1st term...let's make sure the door's open for him for a 3rd...
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Who didn't see this coming?..

H. J. Res. 5: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second...

The Lamb of Chicago has a few days before his 1st term...let's make sure the door's open for him for a 3rd...

Well there's been talk of repealing the Natural Born Citizen requirement so Arnold can run.

I don't think either will happen.
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I swear.
Does the D from NY have any clue as to what this looks like?

At least I can find some solace in the "no cosponsors" aspect...
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Since I support term limits I oppose the repeal.
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Answer me a question, people. And this goes along with the thread subject. I have wondered, if a U.S. President who has served 8 years and sat out a few (Clinton, Carter, Bush I) can run for office again?
I should look it up, but thought maybe someone knew and could give me a quick answer.
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Answer me a question, people. And this goes along with the thread subject. I have wondered, if a U.S. President who has served 8 years and sat out a few (Clinton, Carter, Bush I) can run for office again?
I should look it up, but thought maybe someone knew and could give me a quick answer.
No... Carter can run for a second term, and Bush I can run for a second term, but Clinton has served his eight years.

But I've been on record that I'm vehemently opposed to term limits because I think that they are an attack on democracy. I believe that the people are best qualified to determine the credentials of their representative, senator, governor, or president. Elections are the best term limits. Legislative term limits prevent any real change or progress from occurring as they limit the ability of the individual to create and shepherd long term policy initiatives. Democrat, Republican, it matters not. What matters is the voice of the people.
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Answer me a question, people. And this goes along with the thread subject. I have wondered, if a U.S. President who has served 8 years and sat out a few (Clinton, Carter, Bush I) can run for office again?
I should look it up, but thought maybe someone knew and could give me a quick answer.
A president can serve more than 2 terms, but only can be elected for 2 terms...

Exceptions are when funky things happen like Nixon's resignation...And it has to be before being elected to a first or second term...

Ford was the president, and was legally allowed to serve another 2 full terms (if elected) AFTER serving out the rest of Nixon's term...

Clinton or either Bush serving as a vice-president with the intented or unintended consequence of the president leaving office and them jumping in is a no-go...
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No... Carter can run for a second term, and Bush I can run for a second term, but Clinton has served his eight years.

But I've been on record that I'm vehemently opposed to term limits because I think that they are an attack on democracy. I believe that the people are best qualified to determine the credentials of their representative, senator, governor, or president. Elections are the best term limits. Legislative term limits prevent any real change or progress from occurring as they limit the ability of the individual to create and shepherd long term policy initiatives. Democrat, Republican, it matters not. What matters is the voice of the people.
But the current system is horribly broken. We've moved to where the people are creating their own problem by being bribed with pork by the career politicians who run this country. I'd love it if the scenario you try to portray were true, but unfortunately it isn't. While the people do have a lot of say, it's the PARTIES that limit thier choices that's the biggest problem. Right now, we need to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" because the bathwater is killing the baby. The very right to chose that makes us strong is also destroying us due to the abuses of the people that the parties have put in place. It's time to flush the toilet that is Congress and start new.

The problem with rights is that people fail to recognize that they only come about as a result of the exercise of responsibilities. We (the American people) have failed in our responsibility to elect the people who are best for this nation and have abrogated the authority to choose our representatives to the Parties, forgoing our responsibilities for the sake of being being bribed with pork. Yes, I'd love it if we would all look honestly at the people we are voting for and start throwing out the culls, but that's not going to happen because the parties are the ones offering the choices and they have ONLY maintaining thier power base in mind and not this countries best interest. Enact term limits and you cripple the parties. Enact term limits and you get choices beyond what the parties spoonfeed you. Enact term limits and you get away from business as usual in DC.


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But the current system is horribly broken. We've moved to where the people are creating their own problem by being bribed with pork by the career politicians who run this country. I'd love it if the scenario you try to portray were true, but unfortunately it isn't. While the people do have a lot of say, it's the PARTIES that limit thier choices that's the biggest problem. Right now, we need to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" because the bathwater is killing the baby. The very right to chose that makes us strong is also destroying us due to the abuses of the people that the parties have put in place. It's time to flush the toilet that is Congress and start new.

The problem with rights is that people fail to recognize that they only come about as a result of the exercise of responsibilities. We (the American people) have failed in our responsibility to elect the people who are best for this nation and have abrogated the authority to choose our representatives to the Parties, forgoing our responsibilities for the sake of being being bribed with pork. Yes, I'd love it if we would all look honestly at the people we are voting for and start throwing out the culls, but that's not going to happen because the parties are the ones offering the choices and they have ONLY maintaining thier power base in mind and not this countries best interest. Enact term limits and you cripple the parties. Enact term limits and you get choices beyond what the parties spoonfeed you. Enact term limits and you get away from business as usual in DC.


FYI - WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And for once, Wiki agrees with you.

The U.S. is a Federal Republic. That means that there is a federation of states with a republican form of government.

Unlike what many people expect, it is not a direct democracy. It is a representative democracy. WikiAnswers - What kind of government does the US have
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And for once, Wiki agrees with you.

The U.S. is a Federal Republic. That means that there is a federation of states with a republican form of government.

Unlike what many people expect, it is not a direct democracy. It is a representative democracy. WikiAnswers - What kind of government does the US have
In a TRUE democracy, everything would be voted on by individuals...

That's why we have people called "representatives"...because it's NOT a true democracy...

Of course, HOW they "represent" is another matter altogether...
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