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Old 09-04-2008, 04:07 PM
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Actually, the opposite...

Alaskan politics rival that of Chicago politics in that it's run by machine-like groups that are corrupt and pandered to...

Well...It WAS that way...Until Sarah Palin showed up...

Chicago is still that way though...Apparently, no one's been around Chicago in the last 20 years to promote change they could've believed in...
No, it's still that way in Alaska. The only reason it's changing is the changing winds of politics.

Chicago has improved, it's difficult, but it has improved. I cannot believe that anyone is ignorant enough to compare Alaska to Chicago... It's like comparing Humble City, New Mexico to New York City...

"Uhhh... the both got da same basic things... duh duh duh." But the reality of the matter is that it's the complicated things that make the difference. Alaska politics simply aren't that complicated. Alaska problems simply aren't that complicated. The problems of Alaska don't get close to rivaling the problems of Ohio or Indiana or Eastern Penn...

These rust belt areas are hurting and only someone like a community organizer has the experience THE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE in creating economic opportunities by empowering the citizens on the ground level... Barack was able to work with the community to revitalize business. What has Sarah Palin done to create jobs? From what I've seen all she can do is eliminate jobs.
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No, it's still that way in Alaska. The only reason it's changing is the changing winds of politics.
Way to not give a Governor her due...

The very same way Obama's campaign initially belittled her instead of congratulating her...

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Chicago has improved, it's difficult, but it has improved. I cannot believe that anyone is ignorant enough to compare Alaska to Chicago... It's like comparing Humble City, New Mexico to New York City...

"Uhhh... the both got da same basic things... duh duh duh." But the reality of the matter is that it's the complicated things that make the difference. Alaska politics simply aren't that complicated. Alaska problems simply aren't that complicated. The problems of Alaska don't get close to rivaling the problems of Ohio or Indiana or Eastern Penn...

These rust belt areas are hurting and only someone like a community organizer has the experience THE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE in creating economic opportunities by empowering the citizens on the ground level... Barack was able to work with the community to revitalize business. What has Sarah Palin done to create jobs? From what I've seen all she can do is eliminate jobs.
I love how you look down on non-populated places as if they don't count...I guess Obama isn't the only one who thinks smalltown people sit around their tents clinging to God and guns, eh?...
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Way to not give a Governor her due...

The very same way Obama's campaign initially belittled her instead of congratulating her...

I love how you look down on non-populated places as if they don't count...I guess Obama isn't the only one who thinks smalltown people sit around their tents clinging to God and guns, eh?...
It's a proven fact of sociology and psychology that it's more difficult to get things done with a larger group of people than it is with a smaller group of people. Simple as that. Now you want to read things into that like a true spin artist. Fine. Spin away. Maybe once you've spinned enough you will come back to reality.
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Being the Governor of a highlycomplex to govern is a pretty good qualification. By the standard you're using, we should be asking "Is being president of the Harvard Law Review enough of a qualification for President?"
You're getting lamer by the second, Mikeyy.
I could be governor of Alaska in my spare time.
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Geopolitically, Alaska isn't that flippin complicated. In fact, if it's not the least complicated state in the union, it's danged close.
Masively influential oil cos., native tribes, environmentalists, fishing industry and tourism, all in the largest state in the country, all with VERY often conflicting needs. Complicated?? Yeah, just a little....
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Masively influential oil cos., native tribes, environmentalists, fishing industry and tourism, all in the largest state in the country, all with VERY often conflicting needs. Complicated?? Yeah, just a little....
In comparison to the job of a US Senator? Not even close. Magnify that by 200%. It takes a lot of time making sure those moose are on the field. A lot more than say ensuring economic security for one of the most populated ares in the nation...

A lot more than dealing with NATIONAL problems. A lot more time. I just don't know how she does it and remains active as a bball coach and governor and wife and mother and.... She must be superwoman.
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Actually, the opposite...

Alaskan politics rival that of Chicago politics in that it's run by machine-like groups that are corrupt and pandered to...

Well...It WAS that way...Until Sarah Palin showed up...

Chicago is still that way though...Apparently, no one's been around Chicago in the last 20 years to promote change they could've believed in...
Or else they were scared they'd never make it out of town alive.
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In comparison to the job of a US Senator?
All 143 days of his term in office???

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Not even close. Magnify that by 200%. It takes a lot of time making sure those moose are on the field. A lot more than say ensuring economic security for one of the most populated ares in the nation...
Yet another lame attempt at minimizing what Gov. Palin does.


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A lot more than dealing with NATIONAL problems. A lot more time. I just don't know how she does it and remains active as a bball coach and governor and wife and mother and.... She must be superwoman.
DAMN STRAIGHT!!! As opposed to a pampered boy who's had his life handed to him on a plate. I LOVE the idea that Gov. Palin has been able to juggle the governing of a very complex state to manage with her family life. She hasn't been perfect, but she has done a good job. One that deserves our admiration and respect. She's got more time in elected office than Sen. Obama, she's got leadership experience, she's got experience in working out solutions to problems between powerful groups with very different goals. But you won't pay any attention to any of this, preferring instead to do everything you can to minimize her accomplishements because actually acknowledging them would make your POTUS candidate's qualifications pale in comparison.
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This is freaking ridiculous.

Back when Bubba was running against Bush 42, the exact same people were making the exact opposite arguments. You know, Bubba from that tiny little backwater state that Mikeey could run in his spare time .
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All 143 days of his term in office???


Yet another lame attempt at minimizing what Gov. Palin does.



DAMN STRAIGHT!!! As opposed to a pampered boy who's had his life handed to him on a plate. I LOVE the idea that Gov. Palin has been able to juggle the governing of a very complex state to manage with her family life. She hasn't been perfect, but she has done a good job. One that deserves our admiration and respect. She's got more time in elected office than Sen. Obama, she's got leadership experience, she's got experience in working out solutions to problems between powerful groups with very different goals. But you won't pay any attention to any of this, preferring instead to do everything you can to minimize her accomplishements because actually acknowledging them would make your POTUS candidate's qualifications pale in comparison.
I am not attempting to minimize Governor Palin. She has done more for Alaska than most. I'm not disputing that. I'm merely saying that in comparison to the job of a US Senator, hell, even an Illinois state Senator, it's not as difficult. It's not as difficult because it's not as complicated. Simple as that. I'm not going to pretend for the sake of sanity that being the mayor of a city with 9000, a governor of a state with 700,000 people is the same as being a state senator with a district population greater, and a U.S. Senator where the MARGIN OF ERROR in polls was greater than the number of people governed by Palin.

Now, I don't buy that experience makes one a leader... History has proven that to be conclusively wrong. I think that Palin is just as capable as Barack but I believe that Barack is just as capable as McCain. They all meet the Constitutional requirements to be President and I'm satisfied with that. It is my opinion based upon the evidence that they are all capable. Now I have to determine who's policies will best benefit America. I believe that Obama has the better policies. You obviously believe it's McCain. I respect your opinion and vehemently disagree. That's the beauty of America. Asking for the same however has proven to be impossible for all on the right with the exception of your new leader. John McCain is an honorable man. Wrong on the issues, but an honorable man. I know that he will be one of the many Americans Barack consults with when making decisions. That is the difference between the current Administration and an Obama Administration. While Bush likes to go alone on cowboy diplomacy, Barack will consult with various great leaders in order to make the best possible decision for America.

For your comment that Obama was handed everything... Perhaps you should get a clue. Obama worked hard for what he's got. He's not the son of a rich man or a well connected man like the current President. He earned scholarships to attend a great school and took out loans to pay for the rest.
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