Barney Frank: Sarah Palin’s family life is fair game

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 03:09 AM

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Rep. Barney Frank is among the first Democrats to publicly say Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s family background, including the pregnancy of her unwed teenage daughter, should be fair game for campaign discussion.

"They’re the ones that made an issue of her family," Frank, D-Mass., said Tuesday in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

Republicans stressed Palin’s conservative family values in announcing her selection as John McCain’s running mate on Friday. Frank says the recent disclosure about her daughter blunts conservative claims that liberalism harms family life.

"Apparently she’s a great favorite with the conservative social movement," Frank said. "They have said that it’s liberalism and liberals who have undermined families — same-sex marriage has been a problem, they don’t want gay people to adopt ... This helps undercut those arguments."

Revelations about Palin’s 17-year-old daughter’s out-of-wedlock pregnancy and other family troubles reflect the stresses and strains of modern everyday life more than anything else, said Frank.

"Well, hers is a family in great turmoil," added Frank.

What a wonderful sentence...

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Originally Posted by Barnery Frank

"They’re the ones that made an issue of her family,"

Ummm...No you freakin' moron...read the first sentence of why it was mentioned again...a-hole...

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The 17-year-old daughter of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is pregnant, Palin said on Monday in an announcement intended to knock down rumors by liberal bloggers that Palin faked her own pregnancy to cover up for her child.

The lowest of low smear merchants created the situation by spouting vile and disturbing conspiracy theories (DailyKos - The people who holds conventions where every Democratic candidate except one showed up to giving it the legitimacy and credibility in the party they desperately demand)...

And when Palin attempts to rebut the smears by proving the impossibility of he daughter being the mother of her Down Syndrome baby because she's 5 months pregnant NOW (destroying the smear merchant's timeline), THEN Barney Bumblef*ck comes out and says "She started it!" like a 5 year old...

Brack Obama?...You can sit on you throne and pretend to take the high road all you want...But you can't put your head on the pillow each night NOT believing that your minions won't accept your high-road angle and repeatedly do your bidding by every underhanded means necessary...

saltwn · #2 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 04:09 AM

What's really sad is she uncovered her daughter's private life to knock down rumors. She was wrong to do that IMO. And her daughter may be rightly furious with her rigt now. It's hard enough on teenagers to have a parent in the limelight, without their own lives being spotlighted.

cnredd · #3 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

What's really sad is she uncovered her daughter's private life to knock down rumors. She was wrong to do that IMO. And her daughter may be rightly furious with her rigt now. It's hard enough on teenagers to have a parent in the limelight, without their own lives being spotlighted.

Furious?...

You don't think she'd want to be publicly defended by her own family when a partisan website that Democratic presidential candidates flock to attempt to tell the world that she was complicit in a formulated lie by "pretending to be sick" and not going to school?...That she is actually a mother when she wasn't?...That she is purposefully doing this as a front to keep her mother's reputation as a politician?...

No...

They intentionally told the world that this 17 year old girl was living a lie and was doing so knowingly...

And yet you want to believe that if she's furious at someone, it would be her mother and NOT the ones who contrived this lie about her personally...and you also believe that "rightly" so...

saltwn · #4 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Furious?...

You don't think she'd want to be publicly defended by her own family when a partisan website that Democratic presidential candidates flock to attempt to tell the world that she was complicit in a formulated lie by "pretending to be sick" and not going to school?...That she is actually a mother when she wasn't?...That she is purposefully doing this as a front to keep her mother's reputation as a politician?...

No...

They intentionally told the world that this 17 year old girl was living a lie and was doing so knowingly...

And yet you want to believe that if she's furious at someone, it would be her mother and NOT the ones who contrived this lie about her personally...and you also believe that "rightly" so...

As the mother of former teenagers, I think yes she should be more careful about trotting out her daughter's life for the cameras. Kids will blame you rightly or wrongly for not protecting them about delicate issues. Look maybe they all sat down and discussed it. I hope that was the case. But the bloggers stuff woud have blown over. I read about it and waved it off as crap. I'm sure most people would have. But now to stave off some unnamed bad thing that might happen if they don't "address this issue", she has taken away her kid's right to privacy.

cnredd · #5 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

As the mother of former teenagers, I think yes she should be more careful about trotting out her daughter's life for the cameras. Kids will blame you rightly or wrongly for not protecting them about delicate issues. Look maybe they all sat down and discussed it. I hope that was the case. But the bloggers stuff woud have blown over. I read about it and waved it off as crap. I'm sure most people would have. But now to stave off some unnamed bad thing that might happen if they don't "address this issue", she has taken away her kid's right to privacy.

Nope...

The EXACT OPPOSITE HAPPENED...

The media picked it up and made it national news...Which is the very reason why the statement had to come out in the first place...

Her kid's "right to privacy" was stolen by the smear merchants before her mother made any statements...

faithful_servant · #6 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Furious?...

You don't think she'd want to be publicly defended by her own family when a partisan website that Democratic presidential candidates flock to attempt to tell the world that she was complicit in a formulated lie by "pretending to be sick" and not going to school?...That she is actually a mother when she wasn't?...That she is purposefully doing this as a front to keep her mother's reputation as a politician?...

No...

They intentionally told the world that this 17 year old girl was living a lie and was doing so knowingly...

And yet you want to believe that if she's furious at someone, it would be her mother and NOT the ones who contrived this lie about her personally...and you also believe that "rightly" so...

Gov. Palin went into "Mama Bear" mode. The media attacked her daughter and she defended her the ONLY way she could - by exposing the lie and showing the truth. Pregnancies are kind of on the hard side to hide for very long (it can be done, an old girlfriend of mine hid her's from her parents until the day she walked out of her bedroom with her new-born son in her arms), so there's not a whole lot to be hidden. Her daughter and boyfriend made a mistake in not being responsible, but now are taking responsibility for the child that resulted from that mistake. Mistakes happen, the real test is in how you respond to the mistake. Gov. Palin's daughter did not shirk her responsibility and did not kill her child because it was inconvenient, but choose to be responsible. This shows a lot of maturity on her part and reflects WELL on her parents.

Mikeyy · #7 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 05:20 PM

This is a republican Strawman. It always has been. They had to deal with the issue. So blame the left. Maybe if she was a good parent instead of governor she would have been able to spend more time guiding her daughter. Hows that for a question?
The Right wants to pretend she is being attacked. But she isn't. Strawman

cnredd · #8 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

This is a republican Strawman. It always has been. They had to deal with the issue. So blame the left. Maybe if she was a good parent instead of governor she would have been able to spend more time guiding her daughter. Hows that for a question?
The Right wants to pretend she is being attacked. But she isn't. Strawman

An outright disgusting one...

You're alledging that every single person who ever had a child that made any mistake (pregnancy/drugs/crime, etc) means the automatic failure of the parent in the subject of guidance...

That's TRULY an elitist attitude...

Mikeyy · #9 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

An outright disgusting one...

You're alledging that every single person who ever had a child that made any mistake (pregnancy/drugs/crime, etc) means the automatic failure of the parent in the subject of guidance...

That's TRULY an elitist attitude...

My point was that that is an attack. Nobody is attacking the girl. Some of us have questioned Sarah and John's decision to go ahead and go through with this. So you guys and all the pundits that are whining about attacks. But the only story here is Republicans are creating a strawman to protect themselves from criticism

cnredd · #10 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

My point was that that is an attack. Nobody is attacking the girl. Some of us have questioned Sarah and John's decision to go ahead and go through with this. So you guys and all the pundits that are whining about attacks. But the only story here is Republicans are creating a strawman to protect themselves from criticism

Yeah...Nobody's attacking WHATSOEVER...

While most (not the Left's smear merchants) believe a 17 year old daughter should be kept out of politics, this CNN douche is going the opposite route...

Commentary: Keep politics out of Bristol Palin issue

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Now, for everyone on the left and the right, please, shut up for a moment and consider the broader issue here.

We have a crisis in America and Bristol Palin exemplifies that. She's an unwed teenager who is now pregnant, forced to raise a child far too soon.(cnredd note : NO...abortion is still legal in this country dipshit)...

She is a teenager who chose to have pre-marital sex, which I thought many of these same evangelicals deplored based on biblical reasons. She is a teenager who had unprotected sex, and should thank the Lord that the young man she was with didn't have a sexually transmitted disease.

According to The National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, 46.8 percent of all high school students say they have had sex, which is a decrease from 54 percent.

That's the good news. But we shouldn't be satisfied with almost half of our children making the decision to have sex. Many of them are doing so without any protection, and we have seen an explosion of STDs among teens in the country. In fact, Alaska has one of the highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases among teens.

I can't forget the young woman in the CNN documentary Black in America who talked about having sex for the first time, only to be infected with HIV. That one decision has altered her life in a significant way.

It's worthy to examine the issue because Gov. Palin said in 2006 that she was dead set against any federal funding for sex education, but was an avid supporter of abstinence-only funding.

But it's clear that abstinence-only didn't work in her own household. So, should she and her supporters re-examine their position?

Abstinance-only dind't work in her household?!?!...

Name a f*kin' plan that works 100% a**hole!...Do condoms work 100%...Do sex-education pamphlets work 100%?...Does the pill work 100%?...Does knowing the schedule of ovulation work 100%?...

This is the elitest, presumptious "Look at me up on the tower judging the masses" bullsh*t" that one would HOPE would disappear, but realistically think should be held to the whackos in the blogosphere and not be given their own time and space on CNN...

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