Barney Frank: Sarah Palin’s family life is fair game - Page 2

Gordon Shumway · #11 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

This is a republican Strawman. It always has been. They had to deal with the issue. So blame the left. Maybe if she was a good parent instead of governor she would have been able to spend more time guiding her daughter. Hows that for a question?
The Right wants to pretend she is being attacked. But she isn't. Strawman

Maybe if your girlfriend's parents & your parents were better parents you & her wouldn't have had a child so young. I'm guessing out of wedlock considering you told us she was 17 & you were 18 at the time of birth. That's not unreasonable to think you were 17 & she was 16 at the time of conception --- depending on when birthdays are; etc...

My parents & my wife's parents must have been great parents by your statement --- & I would agree.

Obama's parents weren't very good since he did drugs as a high school kid.
Same for Al & Tipper --- otherwise their son wouldn't have been busted for drug pocession. Maybe Al should have spent more time guiding his son rather than telling the rest of the country how to live --- although he's probably proud that his kid was driving a Prius at the time of his arrest. And, maybe Tipper should have spent more time raising her son rather than trying to kill rock-n-roll.

Mikeyy · #12 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway

Maybe if your girlfriend's parents & your parents were better parents you & her wouldn't have had a child so young. I'm guessing out of wedlock considering you told us she was 17 & you were 18 at the time of birth. That's not unreasonable to think you were 17 & she was 16 at the time of conception --- depending on when birthdays are; etc...

My parents & my wife's parents must have been great parents by your statement --- & I would agree.

Obama's parents weren't very good since he did drugs as a high school kid.
Same for Al & Tipper --- otherwise their son wouldn't have been busted for drug pocession. Maybe Al should have spent more time guiding his son rather than telling the rest of the country how to live --- although he's probably proud that his kid was driving a Prius at the time of his arrest. And, maybe Tipper should have spent more time raising her son rather than trying to kill rock-n-roll.

Just like the right. All worked up without reading what I said. Go back and read what I said. I said that saying something like that is an attack. What the right has been whining over all day is not. Nobody has questioned her parenting or her child etc. But the right is still wining that she is being attacked.
McCain is being attacked for caring more about winning then the welfare of this kid. That is not an attack On this kid. I will attack them for all of the mistakes I feel McCain and Palin make. But lets drop the strawman that the left is attacking her child. Because we are not. Some of us are more concerned about it them McCain. He thinks its OK for her to be in the press. As long as he gets what he wants.

dabateman · #13 (**permalink**) 09-03-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Barney Frank: Sarah Palin’s family life is fair game

What a wonderful sentence...

Ummm...No you freakin' moron...read the first sentence of why it was mentioned again...a-hole...

The lowest of low smear merchants created the situation by spouting vile and disturbing conspiracy theories (DailyKos - The people who holds conventions where every Democratic candidate except one showed up to giving it the legitimacy and credibility in the party they desperately demand)...

And when Palin attempts to rebut the smears by proving the impossibility of he daughter being the mother of her Down Syndrome baby because she's 5 months pregnant NOW (destroying the smear merchant's timeline), THEN Barney Bumblef*ck comes out and says "She started it!" like a 5 year old...

Brack Obama?...You can sit on you throne and pretend to take the high road all you want...But you can't put your head on the pillow each night NOT believing that your minions won't accept your high-road angle and repeatedly do your bidding by every underhanded means necessary...

As long as the personal lives of any politician remains relevant, this remains relevant. I personally find it distasteful, but it's nothing worse than what's been done in the past to public figures and individuals loved by public figures.

Spencer Collins · #14 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

As the mother of former teenagers, I think yes she should be more careful about trotting out her daughter's life for the cameras. Kids will blame you rightly or wrongly for not protecting them about delicate issues. Look maybe they all sat down and discussed it. I hope that was the case. But the bloggers stuff woud have blown over. I read about it and waved it off as crap. I'm sure most people would have. But now to stave off some unnamed bad thing that might happen if they don't "address this issue", she has taken away her kid's right to privacy.

I agree with your assessment and I've been thinking the same thing! To sacrifice a child's privacy for political gain by defusing the spin is never admirable. It serves as a reminder to all who enter the political arena that even one's children become expendable when winning becomes the priority.As you pointed out,if they discussed it and came to an agreement fine.Still..this is why the brightest and best among us will always reject a political career,your life and your family become an open book and some of us find that price to be too high.

Michael1 · #15 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

I agree with your assessment and I've been thinking the same thing! To sacrifice a child's privacy for political gain by defusing the spin is never admirable. It serves as a reminder to all who enter the political arena that even one's children become expendable when winning becomes the priority.As you pointed out,if they discussed it and came to an agreement fine.Still..this is why the brightest and best among us will always reject a political career,your life and your family become an open book and some of us find that price to be too high.

What else could she have done. Not mentioning it wouldn't have been the answer because we all know the media was going to dig, dig, dig. Republicans' children are always fair game. If you don't believe me, look at how Chelsea was treated versus Bush's daughters.

Spencer Collins · #16 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael1

What else could she have done. Not mentioning it wouldn't have been the answer because we all know the media was going to dig, dig, dig. Republicans' children are always fair game. If you don't believe me, look at how Chelsea was treated versus Bush's daughters.

Let her daughter speak for herself!

foundit66 · #17 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael1

What else could she have done. Not mentioning it wouldn't have been the answer because we all know the media was going to dig, dig, dig. Republicans' children are always fair game. If you don't believe me, look at how Chelsea was treated versus Bush's daughters.

How they were treated was related to what "news" WAS THERE.
What "Chelsea" issue would be news-worthy in the first place?

And comparing that to Bush's daughters ...

You're ignoring the issue of HOW MUCH FODDER Bush's daughters gave the media as opposed to Chelsea....

And considering how much the Republicans want to speak about "Family Values", aren't they inviting people to evaluate their own standards?

highway80west · #18 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 01:52 PM

Sure, any candidate's family is fodder for the press (and tabloids, too) and for people like Barney Frank. And that makes me wonder.

Obama has a young family, and was he attacked by the press? Noooooo.

Reason: he is a man, and therefore he is not a stay-at-home dad. And does Barney Frank think that Ms. Palin should be a stay-at-home mom?

John F. Kennedy's family was adored by the whole world. Yet had a beautiful family until his fateful day in Dallas in 1963.

So say four years from now we have a young female democrat with a family of four, who would be the VP nominee (assuming that it is not Obama-Biden), would any GOP elected official say that the woman's family is also fair game?

Michael1 · #19 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

How they were treated was related to what "news" WAS THERE.
What "Chelsea" issue would be news-worthy in the first place?

So your reasoning is that because the media refused to report anything regarding Chelsea for 8 years, nothing happened.

I mean I suppose that's better than admitting that the Bush girls were hot and Chelsea is butt ugly.

The left wing MSM loves to pick on the families of Republicans but always, always take a hands off approach to the families of Dems.

highway80west · #20 (**permalink**) 09-04-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael1

So your reasoning is that because the media refused to report anything regarding Chelsea for 8 years, nothing happened.

I mean I suppose that's better than admitting that the Bush girls were hot and Chelsea is butt ugly.

The left wing MSM loves to pick on the families of Republicans but always, always take a hands off approach to the families of Dems.

The one thing Chelsea won't tell about is her family, especially the relationship Bill Clinton had with Monica Lewinsky.

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