Ludicris and John Rich have both released songs in support of their candidate. They both have different styles, and that is obvious. Seems like these two artists embody the political divide that America is suffering from. Wouldn't you agree?? Listen to both songs and decide for yourself. McCain tune is an mp3 and Obama tune is a video. Don't let the visuals sway your vote. It's all about the lyrics.

Here are the lyrics to the tune:

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RAISIN' MCCAIN Music and lyrics by John Rich Well we're all just raisin' McCain Everywhere across the USA You can get on the train or get out of the way We're all just raisin' McCain And we're all just raisin' McCain Everywhere across the USA You can get on the train or get out of the way We're all just raisin' McCain Well he got shot down in a Vietnam town Fighting for the red, white and blue And they locked him up in the Hanoi Hilton Thinking they could break him in two He stayed strong, stayed extra long 'Til they let all the other boys out Now we've got a real man with an American plan We're going to put him in the big White House Well we're all just raisin' McCain Everywhere across the USA You can get on the train or get out of the way We're all just raisin' McCain Play that American guitar, son And we're all just raisin' McCain Everywhere across the USA You can get on the train or get out of the way We're all just raisin' McCain I said we're all just raisin' McCain Everywhere across the USA You can get on the train or get out of the way We're all just raisin' McCain Well you can get on the train or get out of the way We're all just raisin' McCain

I'll post the reaction from McCain's camp as soon as they release it.

Ludicris also has a song for Obama.

Lyrics for Ludicris's tribute to Obama:

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"Politics as Usual" I'm back on it like I just signed my record deal Yeah the best is here, the Bentley Coup paint is dripping wet, it got sex appeal Never should have hated You never should've doubted him With a slot in the president's iPod Obama shattered 'em Said I handled his biz and I'm one of his favorite rappers Well give Luda a special pardon if I'm ever in the slammer Better yet put him in office, make me your vice president Hillary hated on you, so that bitch is irrelevant Jesse talking slick and apologizing for what? If you said it then you meant it how you want it have a gut! And all you other politicians trying to hate on my man, watch us win a majority vote in every state on my man You can't stop what's bout to happen, we bout to make history The first black president is destined and it's meant to be The threats ain't fazing us, the nooses or the jokes So get off your ass, black people, it's time to get out and vote! Paint the White House black and I'm sure that's got 'em terrified McCain don't belong in any chair unless he's paralyzed Yeah I said it cause Bush is mentally handicapped Ball up all of his speeches and I throw 'em like candy wrap 'cause what you talking I hear nothing even relevant and you the worst of all 43 presidents Get out and vote or the end will be near The world is ready for change because Obama is here! 'cause Obama is here The world is ready for change because Obama is here!

Here is the response from the Obama camp:

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Obama rejects Ludacris rap lyrics "Ludacris is a talented individual but he should be ashamed of these lyrics," said Mr Obama's spokesman Bill Burton. BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Obama rejects Ludacris rap lyrics

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Song's Ludacris-ly 'offensive,' says Barack Obama flack "This song is not only outrageously offensive to Sen. Clinton, Rev. Jackson, Sen. McCain and President Bush, it is offensive to all of us who are trying to raise our children with the values we hold dear," he said. Song's Ludacris-ly 'offensive,' says Barack Obama flack

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Ludacris' Obama song unlikely to alienate voters Ludacris' "Politics as Usual" alludes to an imminent victory for Obama by handing out major put-downs to his rivals. It dismisses Hillary Rodham Clinton as a vice presidential candidate — "that (expletive) is irrelevant"_ and says presumed Republican nominee John McCain doesn't belong in "any chair unless he's paralyzed." Obama, usually a Ludacris fan, was quick to distance himself Wednesday. Ludacris' Obama song unlikely to alienate voters - Yahoo! News

I am starting to see a pattern here. Distancing yourself from the issue for politics sake does not make the problem go away. One minute Obama can be seen smiling with him, and the next minute Obama is "denouncing" him. Does the predominately black supporters of Ludicris feel the same as good old Barry?? Doubt it.

Either way, I am more interested in members comments on the lyrics. Do you like them or not, and why?

And vote which tune would be the better choice for a presidential campaign.

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I don't like the first one. And I don't like the second one.

Its a draw. And I wonder how many picture do I have to post of McCain standing with crooks or people he has later denounced? From his old Pal Charles Keating To Hagee. To Randell "Duke" Cunningham. And on and on and on. The guilt by association thing is so yesterday. I could say he broke in Nam. I could say his wife was a drug addict. Or that he calls her a C*#t. I could say a bunch of things just hoping something sticks. But that is the kind of politics that so many of us are tired of.

Do you have any feedback on the music/lyrics?? Any parallel between our political climate and the mood of the music? You might as well have diverted with some "Iraq war quagmire" comment to change the subject. No need to to derail this thread. I don't see what Keating or Cunningham have to do with music or these songs, and this has nothing to do with "guilty by association". Looks like you brought up everything but the kitchen sink on this one. All you needed to do was give your comment on the lyrics...that's all.

If I would have known that you feel like this, I should have added a third option for the poll: NEITHER

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You were the one who brought up other things besides the songs. I just responded. I don't like Cowboy Hat or Hip Hop. Ludicris' song is vial. Thats all. And Rich the Cowboy Hat's song say's he got shot down and he has a sympathetic story. So vote for him. Or get out of the way. I won't be buying either.

I brought up what was needed to bring across my point. Here you have two songs that two different artists wrote for their candidates and the lyrics for viewing. We saw how the Obama camp responded, and are waiting for McCain's people to pipe in on "Raisin' McCain". It a typical country song and typical urban rap song. After reading the lyrics, one seems more violent than the other. That is my impression. They definately clash, just like many peoples political viewpoints. The words are a reflection of the pulse of America it seems. Ludicris is more aggressive and insulent in his lyrics. John Rich is more good old USA for the Achy Breaky Heart scene. It's interesting how they play off each other.

FYI Ludicris is not Hip Hop artist...he is a rapper. And as we know most gangster rappers have a shady past.

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Why not use the Obama the girl song? Because it doesn't reflect badly on Obama? This is so thinly vailed why bother. Why don't you just say what you are trying to insinuate. You don't like Obama. OK I get it. This isn't even interesting. And where do you get the words are reflective of the pulse of America? If that is your view of the pulse of America you ain't got your finger in the right place. And when did these Mall Cowboys ge their manners. Don't they know enough to take their hats off indoors. Cow tippers Geeeez

Try not being so defensive and focus on what this thread is about. Instead of minimizing this topic to insults of cowboys and their manners, maybe it would be more constructive to read the lyrics and comment, unless you choose not to. Instead you throw in some cannon fodder as an attempt to redirect this thread into some sort of arguemnet about nothing. I never claimed to know what the pulse of America is. I just feel that these two songs, which are currently in the headlines, reflect a some of the political ideology that make up our current political climate.

As far as Obama, all that know me understand that I don't like Obama's overall character. A visit to my sig link will show that. No secret there, but that is not what this thread is about.

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Maybe you need to decide what this thread is about. I don't think you know. It appears that you are just trying to make some kind of analogy that is in your own head. You think the country is divided in to Rappers and Twang singers. Or Ludicris=left. And Rich is right. Is that your whole analogy? I did read the lyrics in fact I repeated them to you.
The songs represent what? I just told you that Ludicris' song sucked.It was a hate filled attack. It only represents him.
The Cowboy who you claim is a star. I have never heard his name until reading you post. Says just what I said it does. We like McCain. About 40 years ago he got shot down and was held prisoner. And like some others did he let some of his comrades go first. So vote for him or get out of the way.

Or apparently he will lie about you claiming you were seeking photo ops with the troops. Or that you didn't have time to visit the troops because you were at the gym.He is a sad little man. Our Mr. McCain. He will say anything to win. Maybe that is the second verse of Tex's song

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Both of these songs suck big time. One is an insult to civility - the other an insult to intelligence. How can one be singled out as being "better" than the other?

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