I told you this guy is a liar. And you guys just keep wanting him as your leader. Bearing false witness. That ain't very Christian if ya ask me. Now he is starting to play race. Duh. What a shock.


Straight talk in action: a Republican strategist tells BusinessWeek that John McCain was planning an attack ad against Barack Obama whether or not the Democrat visited wounded troops in Germany:

What the McCain campaign doesn't want people to know, according to one GOP strategist I spoke with over the weekend, is that they had an ad script ready to go if Obama had visited the wounded troops saying that Obama was...wait for it...using wounded troops as campaign props. So, no matter which way Obama turned, McCain had an Obama bashing ad ready to launch. I guess that's political hardball. But another word for it is the one word that most politicians are loathe to use about their opponents--a lie.

Not even close...

As been the MILITARY POLICY FOR YEARS, campaign staff and the media are NOT ALLOWED at places where a candidate visits the wounded...

Read your statement again...

What is being said is that Obama (You know...being a Senator and all) should visit the troops, but should NOT publicly display the visit to be used as part of his campaign (which IS the whole idea behind the military policy)...

If Obama DID visit the troops and DID use "wounded troops as campaign props", then McCain would've been absolutely correct in pointing out the clear breakage of military policy...

But if he visited the troops WITHOUT his campaign staff and WITHOUT the fawning media, not only would it have been acceptable, but commendable...

So your title..."McCain Planned To Attack Obama If He Did Visit Troops Abroad" is misleading...It should've read "McCain Planned To Attack Obama If He Did Visit Troops and used the visit as propaganda for his campaign (which would been in clear violation of military policy)"

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cnredd, you're not making ANY sense.

You pointed out: "As been the MILITARY POLICY FOR YEARS, campaign staff and the media are NOT ALLOWED at places where a candidate visits the wounded..."

So HOW could McCain have been planning to use Obama's visit against him if what you complain about WAS NEVER POSSIBLE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Are you claiming that you have inside information that McCain would have ONLY criticized Obama if the military had violated its policy????
To repeat to make it clear. Military is the one that violates the policy, but Obama is the one worthy of the criticism then...


Moreover, kindly explain the following...
bush visit wounded soldiers - Google Image Search
Does the president get a special pass on this policy for the media to cover HIS visits?

But let me guess.
NOOOOOO McCain criticism over THIS, right???

If BUSH does it, it's okay...
If OBAMA does it, there has to be a sinister motive involved...

Fact Check: No evidence that Obama troop visit was to be media event

A John McCain campaign ad claims that Barack Obama "made time to go to the gym, but canceled a visit with wounded troops. Seems the Pentagon wouldn’t allow him to bring cameras." Mr. Obama's campaign denies the Democrat ever planned to take reporters with him, and The Washington Post reported Wednesday that there was no evidence that media would be invited. Some background:

In an effort to shore up his foreign policy chops, Mr. Obama took the unusual step of making a trip overseas — to the Middle East and Europe. The idea, in part, was to show the presidential candidate's gravitas as an international leader.

But the strategy backfired a bit when Mr. Obama canceled plans to visit wounded troops at a military hospital in Germany.

Mr. Obama had been part of a congressional delegation that visited Iraq and Afghanistan, but when that trip ended Mr. Obama stayed on the road, spending several days on a campaign-funded tour of Europe. Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Landstuhl, Germany, was supposed to be one of the stops.

The decision to cancel was made after the Pentagon raised a number of issues about its policy against campaign activity at a military base — including visits by campaign staff or any media coverage or speeches. As a sitting senator, Mr. Obama was welcome to visit troops, but no one on the campaign trip with him, including a retired general who is advising his campaign, could go along.

Mr. Obama found himself in an awkward spot: visit wounded troops alone and risk being seen as having used them as campaign props, or skip the wounded troops altogether. It was a no-win pickle of Mr. Obama's own making. He hoped to minimize the political controversy by backing out of the hospital visit.

Republican John McCain's campaign quickly pounced.

An ad released on July 26 implied that Mr. Obama blew off the visit with wounded troops because he wasn’t allowed to use it as a photo op.

Fact Check: No evidence that Obama troop visit was to be media event | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | Politics: Top Stories

Were those pics taken during a presidential campaign?
I believe that's the point being made by cnredd.
And, as president there is a slight difference; especially when it's in the final years of his presidency & he can no longer run for that office.
At that point it's not about gaining a poltical edge in a campaign or using wounded soldiers to gain a political office.

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You have it correct Gordon...

If these photos were taken in 1999 while Bush was a candidate for presidential office, foundit's case would be justified...However, they were not...

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McSame proves that he is the more "experienced" POLITICIAN ..straight talk??? BS..

Excuse number 5243 for why Bush doing something is okay...
... but the Democrat side of the coin is supposedly wrong...

I still haven't heard HOW McCain (under cnredd's scenario) was supposedly going to be able to criticize Obama.
If the rules were followed, the claim of cnredd and others is hollow.
If the rules were not followed, then Obama gets the blame for the military not following its own rules.

The only thing consistent is that Obama gets attacked...

Bush wasn't a candidate...Obama is...I dont get where you don't see the difference...

Nope...Obama would not have been attacked if he visited the troops and there was no coverage media-wise or campaign-wise...

I even said so explicitly earlier in this thread...

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