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Old 07-24-2008, 05:52 PM
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Obama Scrubs Visit to See Troops in Germany

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The German magazine Der Spiegel is reporting on line that Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. has “cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl U.S. military bases in the southwest German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. The visits were planned for Friday.”

“Barack Obama will not be coming to us,” a spokesperson for the U.S. military hospital in Landstuhl told Der Spiegel. “I don't know why.”

Obama senior adviser Robert Gibbs told us in a statement, “During his trip as part of the CODEL to Afghanistan and Iraq, Senator Obama visited the combat support hospital in the Green Zone in Baghdad and had a number of other visits with the troops. For the second part of his trip, the senator wanted to visit the men and women at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center to express his gratitude for their service and sacrifice. The senator decided out of respect for these servicemen and women that it would be inappropriate to make a stop to visit troops at a U.S. military facility as part of a trip funded by the campaign.”
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WTF?!?!?!

A SENATOR thinks that visiting US troops would be "inappropriate"?!?!?!

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"Barack Obama is wrong. It is never ‘inappropriate’ to visit our men and women in the military," said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.
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Obama Scrubs Visit to See Troops in Germany

Ummm...

WTF?!?!?!

A SENATOR thinks that visiting US troops would be "inappropriate"?!?!?!
It's inappropiate because it's not pandering to his BDS/anti-OIF/ultra-left base. Any show of support for our military is never a good thing for that group, so yes, it's entirely inappropriate for his campaign.
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Thanks redd, more reason to dis like the man. Sure he will have enough people who will white wash this (like above post) over and repaint it again.

The brainless just can't stop pushing a dead weight. And he has a lot of brainless wits behind him buying into the change slogan. I just can't understand why they are brainless on this point. The more we learn of him these is more to question, yet they defend him and ask nothing. That is what this period of time is for to ask questions and learn. But some can't see that far for CHANGE is blocking their view!

Just another angle on this. All the stops and not enought time for our wounded soldiers. Can him! make money with the hearless Obama in a can.

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PARIS (Reuters) - U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama dropped a plan to visit wounded U.S. troops in Germany on Friday amid concerns the stop would be viewed as a political event.

Planning for a stop at the Landstuhl Regional Medical Center had been in the works for three weeks. But an Obama adviser said he was told in recent days by the Pentagon that the military would consider it a campaign event.

"Senator Obama had hoped to and had every intention of visiting our troops to express his appreciation and gratitude for their service to our country," said retired Maj. Gen. Scott Gration, who advises Obama on national security matters.

"Senator Obama did not want to have a trip to see our wounded warriors perceived as a campaign event when his visit was to show his appreciation for our troops and decided instead not to go," Gration said.

Obama was to have stopped at Landstuhl after visiting Berlin on Thursday. He flew to Paris on Friday and will wrap up his trip abroad in London before heading back to the United States on Saturday.

Obama's trip abroad, rare for a presidential candidate, is aimed at burnishing his credentials on foreign policy. His rival in the November election, Republican John McCain, has labeled the first-term U.S. senator as too inexperienced to lead on foreign policy.

The 46-year-old Obama has also visited Iraq, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories.

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He just doesn't want to appear too much like he's upsurging the commander and Chief role. It would be kind of awkward.
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Wow here is a real issue. I guess Obama hates the troops and America now.

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Wow here is a real issue. I guess Obama hates the troops and America now.

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Well, if you're auditioning for the role of commander in chief one might think meeting the troops would be a priority.

This on the other hand seems more like the new boss upstairs deciding to fire everyone downstairs without ever meeting a one of them.

I suppose he'll sleep better at night that way.
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Well, if you're auditioning for the role of commander in chief one might think meeting the troops would be a priority.

This on the other hand seems more like the new boss upstairs deciding to fire everyone downstairs without ever meeting a one of them.

I suppose he'll sleep better at night that way.
Its these stories that are meant to try to decide about how someone feels based on one event. McCain no doubt visited Walter Reed many times. Why didn't he notice that our returning Men and Woman were not getting the care they deserve? Or that they were being housed in dilapidated buildings. He has been in charge for decades while Walter Reed was falling apart. He was on the committees responsible. He was on the committees that provide amour and equipment for our troops. But hey were lacking in this equipment and had to purchase their own. He is against the GI bill. I guess he doesn't love our troops. See how silly this can get?

The guy loves and respects the troops. So does McCain. Can we get to some real issues. Before we paper cut these guys to death.
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Sen. Hagel Criticizes McCain Ad.

Sen. Chuck Hagel took on his old friend and fellow Vietnam veteran Sen. John McCain, criticizing McCain’s new TV ad attacking Sen. Barack Obama.

In the ad, the Republican presidential candidate complains about Obama’s recent decision not to visit U.S. troop hospital in Germany, saying, “Sen. Obama made time to go to the gym but canceled a visit with wounded troops.”

“I do not think that ad was appropriate,” Hagel said in an appearance on CBS-TVs “Face the Nation.” Obama’s staff was advised by the Pentagon about the military’s concerns with Obama bringing his political campaign to see soldiers there, his advisers have said.

Hagel jumped into a discussion of the McCain ad between CBS host Bob Schieffer and Sen. Jack Reed (D., R.I.), who called the ad “completely distorted.” Reed and Hagel had accompanied Obama to Afghanistan and Iraq as part of an official “congressional delegation.” Hagel said that it would have been wrong for Obama, as part of his campaign-financed political trip, to visit troops at the U.S. hospital in Germany after the official congressional trip had ended.

Hagel said that if Obama had visited the U.S. hospital at that point, he would be “using our wounded men and women as props for his campaign.” Obama “probably did the right thing,” Hagel said, adding that Obama, he and Reed visited troops “everywhere” in Iraq during their congressional trip.

The Pentagon has said it wasn’t trying to keep Obama from visiting the medical facility, where veterans of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan are recovering. But Obama’s advisers have said that Pentagon made it clear to them that they did not sanction an Obama campaign stop, paid by his campaign, at the hospital.

During ABC-TV’s “This Week,” McCain criticized Obama’s decision in Germany, saying “Those troops would have loved to see (Obama).” He continued: “If I had been told by the Pentagon that I couldn’t visit those troops, and I was there and wanted to be there, I guarantee you, there would have been a seismic event.”

McCain said seven times that Obama “does not understand” Iraq, the military situation or America’s stake in the area. And he declined to apologize for his recent attacks on Obama for pushing a faster withdrawal of troops from Iraq. “I am saying that he made the decision, which was political, in order to help him get the nomination of his party,” McCain said when “This Week” host George Stephanopolous pressed him about a comment last week that Obama “would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign.”

McCain said he was questioning Obama’s “actions” not his patriotism. He later told CNN that he wasn’t questioning Obama’s patriotism, saying he was sure Obama is a patriotic American.

Hagel had a different take: “I think John is treading on some very thin ground here,” he said. “John’s better than that,” he added.
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