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Old 07-22-2008, 10:47 PM
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I think the hardcore terrorists are happier to have McCain as POTUS. He is old school. They can figure him out because he is so obviously going to follow the same tired old strategies. He doesn't even know how the internet works. He is an insulated politician who has never lived in the real world.
























Ain't that stuff aggravating? That's the kind of thing that some on the right post towards Obama.
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Well, per the information you posted, lets take a look at what's the bill's intended goal:

"To develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

0.7% for someone with a salary of 55k is about $1 a day (what the intended beneficiaries live on). I can think of all kinds of different bills that might get more of an uproar from me. You seem to be very loose with the money when it comes to "defending" our liberties (to the tune of a trillion), but very stingy when it comes to helping the less fortunate (865 billion over thirteen years) That is IF I give any of this credibility... considering the sources,
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Well, per the information you posted, lets take a look at what's the bill's intended goal:

"To develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

0.7% for someone with a salary of 55k is about $1 a day (what the intended beneficiaries live on). I can think of all kinds of different bills that might get more of an uproar from me. You seem to be very loose with the money when it comes to "defending" our liberties (to the tune of a trillion), but very stingy when it comes to helping the less fortunate (865 billion over thirteen years) That is IF I give any of this credibility... considering the sources,
Yep. That idea seems to have worked pretty well in America.

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Yep. That idea seems to have worked pretty well in America.

You really think our social problems are due to a lack of money? You are the deluded one my friend,
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Yeah! Let's give 900 Billion Dollars to the UN!




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So either YOU and OBAMA are fools or you think WE are.

Which is it?

By the way, I'm going to solve all your problems from now on. Just give me your guns and money and control over your household decisions.

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Yeah! Let's give 900 Billion Dollars to the UN!




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So either YOU and OBAMA are fools or you think WE are.

Which is it?

By the way, I'm going to solve all your problems from now on. Just give me your guns and money and control over your household decisions.

I didn't say it was a good idea, I just said there were worse ideas. I don't own any guns, if I did you would be welcome to them,
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You really think our social problems are due to a lack of money? You are the deluded one my friend,
You have just shown an inability to understand the world around you.

Some folks really do need Socialism or else their existence would serve only to demonstrate Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection.

The idea of giving money to people for doing nothing goes counter to human nature. We have the American welfare system to show how well meaning progressives were unable to win the war on poverty and they used a lot more than just money.

And the ideas that Obama is hoping to employ to solve the worlds' poverty is no different at the core than the ideas used to try solving America's poverty in the 1960's. Didn't you read what I posted about that?

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[ TITLE: 11pm, JULY 25th 1967 ]

PRESIDENT LYNDON B. JOHNSON: Law and order have broken down in Detroit, Michigan. Pillage, looting, murder…

VO: Only a few years before, President Johnson had promised policies that would create a new and a better world in America. He had called it “the Great Society.”

[ TITLE: President LYNDON JOHNSON, 1964 ]

JOHNSON: The Great Society is in place where every child can find knowledge to enrich his mind. It is a place where the City of Man…

VO: But now, in the wake of some of the worst riots ever seen in America, that dream seemed to have ended in violence and hatred. One prominent liberal journalist called Irving Kristol began to question whether it might actually be the policies themselves that were causing social breakdown.

IRVING KRISTOL: If you had asked any liberal in 1960, we are going to pass these laws, these laws, these laws, and these laws, mentioning all the laws that in fact were passed in the 1960s and ‘70s, would you say crime will go up, drug addiction will go up, illegitimacy will go up, or will they get down? Obviously, everyone would have said, they will get down. And everyone would have been wrong. Now, that’s not something that the liberals have been able to face up to. They’ve had their reforms, and they have led to consequences that they did not expect and they don’t know what to do about.


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This is a scam to make a few of Obama's cronies and cronies to be, rich and powerful at your expense.

It's not going to work and the world will be worse off.

But ASIDE from the merits of the bill...

The fact of his proposing this crap and the fact of his doing it so deceptively and the fact that a candidate for the office of President of the United States would propose something like this would give Nikita Kruschev a chubby in his grave.

How far have we fallen when Americans can't see the fucking outrageousness of this even being proposed!!!!!

Much less by a serious candidate.

God damn we have become so undeserving of freedom that if we elect that smooth talking, duplicitous global Socialist bastard we will deserve whatever butt raping he administers. And I don't want to hear a God damned peep out of any of you when it happens because you've had all the warning you could ever have.

And all you do is make excuses and talk about how 'there's nothing in the bill about guns per se and so it must be alright' and 'it's not about the money it's...'

Kiss Obama's ass.

Then kiss your money and your sovereignty and then your guns good bye.

Oh, wait. It just occurred to me. Some who are arguing in favor of this plan are like illegal aliens wanna-be's. They speak and write English and lobby for American handouts from their humble abodes outside of the USA and so it makes sense that they would try to convince Americans to go along with such crap. It's like "Typing for Dollars." Or, "Posting for Fun and Profit."

Well, sorry, but work to change your government to democracy and adopt capitalism and use your brains and muscle to make a go of it. $ from the UN will only spoil you and make you dependent on handouts. You will become Obama's Bitches.

Study what happened in America and you will see it will be the ruin of your people and your culture.

And then 40 years from now the Democrats won't know how to fix the problems from this debacle just as they can't fix the mess they made by handing out money and ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WENT ALONG WITH THE MONEY.

It never works as well as Capitalism.
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I would point out that the oil for food scandal was a couple of billion. Hell, Bremmer lost 5 times that much money in cash and nobody on the right cares. Selective aren't we?
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Bhkad: Foaming at the mouth usually is a sign of rabies... I would have that checked if I were you.

You can't honestly compare the poor around the world who live on $1 a day to the poor in the United States. You can't possibly be suggesting that hand outs from the UN to people who are starving, malnourished and dying by the thousands from hunger and disease could possibly be "spoiling them". Your lack of empathy is not amazing, what is amazing is that you post it. Most people are duplicitous (hope that word isn't too big for you) enough to at least pretend to give a crap.

Paranoia, conspiracy theories... do you happen to hear voices as well? That might also merit a visit to another kind of doctor. Just saying,
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This is a scam to make a few of Obama's cronies and cronies to be, rich and powerful at your expense.
It occurs to me that this particular quote could apply to the current administration as well,
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