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Old 06-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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I am not a GWB fan, but I cannot see what else he could have done in relation to the Katrina disaster. All the after the game quarter backing in the world won't change the fact this was an act of nature. Unforeseen even by the citizens who populated the area. In fact they had become complacent in the fact they had survived hurricanes before. That doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for them and their loss. I just don't know what people are getting at when they criticize Bush for flying over the area.
I disagree. And I don't mean to Bash Bush. But you will remember that his greatest moment was standing on that pile of ruble after 9-11. So it might have in fact improved his numbers had he seemed more engaged. But Like I said. Its the polls that show the mood of the country towards his efforts. Maybe he couldn't have changed a thing. It might have given people a little more hope. I mean they went for days on end with no water or food. And then it seemed nobody was acting for days. I loaded a pickup full of generators and crap. And we got turned back. It was a mess.
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See what I did there? Cool huh?
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Spencer that is just more prove that Mccain is desperate and his mind isn't up to the job.
I watched him give a speech last week and he walked back and forth between a hand railing and the podium. Each time he reached out to hang on and support himself.
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Did anybody listen?
Did anybody lose their elected spot because of such complaints?



Like who?



My point was that Bush should never have appointed Brownie in the first place.
A point you never addressed.

The reason Bush deserves criticism is that he employed cronyism for an important position, and people ended up getting hurt because of it.
If that is "flimsy", then show it to be so.
I think the reason you avoided addressing it earlier is cause you know it isn't a flimsy criticism...
Sean Penn.

Not about Brown, who had been a deputy administrator of FEMA before being appointed head of FEAM and was not even the issue in NOLA, it was the LOCAL and STATE government failures.

So again, Bush lands at Mossiant, gets out of his plane, all the Civil Defense, Emergency Management heads, Police and Fire authorities, Mayor, Governor, Sherriffs et al are all there. So then what?
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I disagree. And I don't mean to Bash Bush. But you will remember that his greatest moment was standing on that pile of ruble after 9-11. So it might have in fact improved his numbers had he seemed more engaged. But Like I said. Its the polls that show the mood of the country towards his efforts. Maybe he couldn't have changed a thing. It might have given people a little more hope. I mean they went for days on end with no water or food. And then it seemed nobody was acting for days. I loaded a pickup full of generators and crap. And we got turned back. It was a mess.
It would have mattered diddly squat had he gone there and as I have said repeatedly, had he done so just for poitical gain as you suggest he would have been nailed to the wall.

This is a phony issue drug up by McCellan's editor to try and spread so dirt from which to enrich himself and McCellan.
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It would have mattered diddly squat had he gone there and as I have said repeatedly, had he done so just for poitical gain as you suggest he would have been nailed to the wall.

This is a phony issue drug up by McCellan's editor to try and spread so dirt from which to enrich himself and McCellan.
What would you say if he hadn't gone to NY after 9-11? He is a figure head. I don't know why that is so hard to grasp. He represents the entire country. So showing up means that the whole country cares. Why do you think he finally did show up? He didn't help then either. He just speechified and left.
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What would you say if he hadn't gone to NY after 9-11?
Totally different scenario there. It wasn't the entire city of New York, the logistics were different altogether.

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He is a figure head. I don't know why that is so hard to grasp.
I understand it fully.

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He represents the entire country. So showing up means that the whole country cares.
Which was the last thing on everyones mind.

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Why do you think he finally did show up? He didn't help then either. He just speechified and left.
Later is another story, we are talking about this particular time and place. Later the airport was operating almost as before, roads in and out were open, security was manageable the rescue was over and time to start the planning for recovery.
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Totally different scenario there. It wasn't the entire city of New York, the logistics were different altogether.



I understand it fully.



Which was the last thing on everyones mind.



Later is another story, we are talking about this particular time and place. Later the airport was operating almost as before, roads in and out were open, security was manageable the rescue was over and time to start the planning for recovery.
I have determined that we are going to disagree about this. But his poll numbers dropped then and never came back. Are you saying that his poll numbers I had a better report but here you go.

Pollster.com: Bush Approval: Newsweek 33%
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I have determined that we are going to disagree about this. But his poll numbers dropped then and never came back. Are you saying that his poll numbers I had a better report but here you go.

Pollster.com: Bush Approval: Newsweek 33%

His poll numbers would have dropped anyway, the press was going to attack him no matter what he did. He choose the more pragmatic course and to not interfer with the ongoing rescue and recovery in a very unsecured location. His not going there made not a twit of difference in the end.
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His poll numbers would have dropped anyway, the press was going to attack him no matter what he did. He choose the more pragmatic course and to not interfer with the ongoing rescue and recovery in a very unsecured location. His not going there made not a twit of difference in the end.
Is he ever responsible for anything? Is it everyone else's fault that he is the lowest rated POTUS in modern history. It can't be just because the press doesn't like him. Or because the left has been whining all of this time. He has to bear some responsibility sometime for something.
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