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Old 06-08-2008, 11:24 AM
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You asked me what I thought he should have done. I told you what I think. You may think it wouldn't have changed a thing. I think it might have. And again, Its not me ragging him about it. I am just commenting on why I think his numbers never returned after Katrina.
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Old 06-08-2008, 11:41 PM
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Number 1, Bush appointed a guy COMPLETELY UNQUALIFIED to the position of FEMA in the first place.

If the janitor botches a surgery, then you can obviously look at the head of the hospital who made the janitor a surgeon in the first place.

And that's a very good reason why Bush's numbers took a dive after Katrina.


On the flip side, there were major screw-ups at the federal, state, and local levels of government.
How that mayor got re-elected is beyond me.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:51 AM
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You asked me what I thought he should have done. I told you what I think. You may think it wouldn't have changed a thing. I think it might have. And again, Its not me ragging him about it. I am just commenting on why I think his numbers never returned after Katrina.
WHAT? What would it have changed? You demand that he should have done something that would have had little if any benifit.

As I said, had he flown into NOLA then he would have been criticized for being a political opportunist. He can't win either way so best not to interfer and distrupt what was going on at the time.
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:29 AM
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As I said, had he flown into NOLA then he would have been criticized for being a political opportunist.
The same accusation could have been labelled after 9/11.
I don't remember any such significant allegation. At least not that anybody was listening to.

There were a variety of politicians that visited New Orleans after the fact.
Can you show any significant labelling of any of them as "political opportunist".

You're just trying to come up with a flimsy excuse, ignoring the excuses lack of basis in substantial reality.

And in the end, his popularity rating STILL dropped.
Perhaps the pretense of "political opportunist" labelling wasn't as significant as the ignorance and indifference he showed in NOT showing up, eh?
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WHAT? What would it have changed? You demand that he should have done something that would have had little if any benifit.

As I said, had he flown into NOLA then he would have been criticized for being a political opportunist. He can't win either way so best not to interfer and distrupt what was going on at the time.
So you think those are good enough reasons? And now dropping by an American major disaster is avoided because it might look opportunistic. Pretty soon the POTUS will only leave the white house for fund raisers where he won't look politically opportunistic. Or possibly be disruptive. Kinda funny when you think about it. We don't want Bush to cause disruption at a disaster.
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The same accusation could have been labelled after 9/11.
I don't remember any such significant allegation. At least not that anybody was listening to.
It was in some cases.

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There were a variety of politicians that visited New Orleans after the fact.
Can you show any significant labelling of any of them as "political opportunist".
Not the next day and lots of people were accused of using their trips there for some personal gain.


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You're just trying to come up with a flimsy excuse, ignoring the excuses lack of basis in substantial reality.
I think you are desperately trying to come up with flimsy reasons to criticize him..................................he gets off the plane, now what?
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So you think those are good enough reasons?
I'm still waiting to hear a good reason for him to have stopped at the airport.

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And now dropping by an American major disaster is avoided because it might look opportunistic.
I have every reason to believe that had Bush stopped there he would have been criticized for that........no matter what he did the left would have tried to capitalize on it for their gain.


How many hurricanes did Clinton rush down to take over recovery efforts were there?
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I'm still waiting to hear a good reason for him to have stopped at the airport.



I have every reason to believe that had Bush stopped there he would have been criticized for that........no matter what he did the left would have tried to capitalize on it for their gain.


How many hurricanes did Clinton rush down to take over recovery efforts were there?
I disagree. And I don't mean to Bash Bush. But you will remember that his greatest moment was standing on that pile of ruble after 9-11. So it might have in fact improved his numbers had he seemed more engaged. But Like I said. Its the polls that show the mood of the country towards his efforts. Maybe he couldn't have changed a thing. It might have given people a little more hope. I mean they went for days on end with no water or food. And then it seemed nobody was acting for days. I loaded a pickup full of generators and crap. And we got turned back. It was a mess.
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It was in some cases.
Did anybody listen?
Did anybody lose their elected spot because of such complaints?


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Not the next day and lots of people were accused of using their trips there for some personal gain.
Like who?


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I think you are desperately trying to come up with flimsy reasons to criticize him..................................he gets off the plane, now what?
My point was that Bush should never have appointed Brownie in the first place.
A point you never addressed.

The reason Bush deserves criticism is that he employed cronyism for an important position, and people ended up getting hurt because of it.
If that is "flimsy", then show it to be so.
I think the reason you avoided addressing it earlier is cause you know it isn't a flimsy criticism...
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I am not a GWB fan, but I cannot see what else he could have done in relation to the Katrina disaster. All the after the game quarter backing in the world won't change the fact this was an act of nature. Unforeseen even by the citizens who populated the area. In fact they had become complacent in the fact they had survived hurricanes before. That doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for them and their loss. I just don't know what people are getting at when they criticize Bush for flying over the area.
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