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Chad Ramsey likes what he sees.
That worries Kim Stolfer.

Ramsey, the associate director of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, says each of the three presidential candidates has, to some degree, supported the center's efforts to regulate the gun trade. That hasn't been the case in an election year for a long time.

Stolfer says gun rights advocates such as himself shouldn't seriously consider Democratic Sens. Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, but added he has concerns about Republican Sen. John McCain.

Still, Ramsey said, when the Democratic Party picks a nominee to face McCain, "I think there will be plenty of stark differences between them."
Those differences could become an issue in the battle for Pennsylvania's 21 electoral votes in November. Although gun control hasn't occupied much time in the Democratic primary race between Clinton and Obama, Ramsey said that will change.

The candidates are scheduled to debate in Philadelphia on April 16, the one-year anniversary of the Virginia Tech massacre.

Gun control issues are always on the state electorate's mind to some degree, said Berwood Yost, director of the Center for Opinion Research at Franklin & Marshall College in Lancaster.

"It's an important variable in Pennsylvania politics" that goes beyond gun ownership, Yost said. "We think it's an assessment of cultural sensibilities."

About 1 million hunters make Pennsylvania first in the nation in the amount of time its citizens spend hunting each year, according to the state Game Commission. The National Rifle Association says Pennsylvania has one of the highest per-capita memberships among states, with hundreds of thousands of people affiliated with the group.

The gun trade is active, especially in Western Pennsylvania. Nearly 2 million guns were sold or transferred in the state from 2002-06, according to the Pennsylvania State Police. Allegheny County recorded more transactions than any other, with more than 125,000 during those five years.

Clinton and Obama favor some kind of ban on assault weapons, something McCain opposes...

..."I am not in favor of concealed weapons," Obama said. "I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations."

Obama and Clinton agree on most issues, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandom said.

McCain, however, "was good on our issues for a very long time. ... For a brief period of time, from 1999 to 2003-04, he wasn't as good. But since 2004, he has voted with us 100 percent of the time."
Probably much ado about nothing NOW, but come the generals, this is gonna hurt the Democrats...

ESPECIALLY in the wake of recent college murders where it could've been prevented with concealed guns...

I, personally, don't consider this a top priority, but I know many who do...
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That for sure lost him my vote, period.

All studies (I have seen) show that having conceal carry laws slow person to person and home entry crimes by a lot.

To me he is thinking of the many blacks who have gone to jail for what ever, and won't be allowed to get one.
This isn't thinking on a large scale but a pointed one. It is about race in my humble opinion.
And again what the elitist want in the long run. An unarmed society. But the many gangs across the nation right now are armed much better than any police force. And a lot of members are ex military and train the others in the tactics they have learned.
Again not putting the entire picture into focus, just a small piece of the whole.
Party Line speech. I bet if the ballot box had a "none of the above" plenty would pick it over what the two parties are allowing us to chose from. Except for the ones who have the Change speak fever for Obama.

Not one has pointed to the truth of how and why we find our selfs in the mess we as a nation are in today. And the reason is because of Politicians and parties, plain and simple.

Sorry for going a bit off the deep end. This crap just pi** m eto no end. And I take a shot to say the same thing every chance I find. And notice I say the same things each time.
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