War Breaking Out Over Superdelegates Role In Democratic Primary

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The battle over the Democratic presidential nomination turned nasty on Thursday, one day after Hillary Clinton donors subtly threatened to stop the spigots for House Democrats if Speaker Nancy Pelosi insists superdelegates vote the same way as pledged delegates.

Liberal group MoveOn.org — which has endorsed Barack Obama — issued a letter to its members, asking them to sign on to a statement that says millionaire donors shouldn’t dictate how the race is won. It also asked for members to match the money the donors would otherwise supply.

“The Democratic nomination should be decided by the voters — not by superdelegates or party high-rollers. We’ve given money — and time — to progressive candidates and causes, and we’ll support Speaker Pelosi and others who stand up for democracy in the Democratic Party,” reads the statement.

In sending the request to join, MoveOn’s political action team called the donors’ letter to Pelosi “the worst kind of insider politics — billionaires bullying our elected leaders into ignoring the will of the voters.”

In the letter sent to Pelosi on Wednesday, the Clinton supporters asked that the House speaker retract statements she made a week prior calling for superdelegates to follow the will of primary and caucus voters.

Superdelegates “must look to not one criterion but to the full panoply of factors that will help them assess who will be the party’s strongest nominee in the general election,” the donors wrote.

The letter also noted the donors “have been strong supporters” of the House Democrats’ fundraising arm.

“We therefore urge you to clarify your position on superdelegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the national convention in August.”

Spokesman Brendan Daly said Pelosi is confident superdelegates will make their choice between Clinton and Obama “based on many considerations, including respecting the decisions of millions of Americans who have voted in primaries and participated in caucuses. The speaker believes it would do great harm to the Democratic Party if superdelegates are perceived to overturn the will of the voters. This has been her position throughout this primary season, regardless of who was ahead at any particular point in delegates or votes.”

Clinton campaign officials said on a conference call Thursday that they knew about the pointed letter to Pelosi beforehand but only in general terms.

“We got a heads up,” said a spokesman, adding that everyone recognizes that superdelegates have the responsibility to exercise independent judgment about who is best for the party and the country.

War Breaking Out Over Superdelegate Role in Democratic Primary - America’s Election HQ

For once,Pelosi is correct!

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I disagree...I think she's off by a mile...

First, a little disclaimer...

If this is SOOOOOOO true..

...then why evan HAVE friggin' superdelegates?!?!?!?!..If their job is to JUST DO the exact same thing the public already did, then they aren't even needed...You would just go by the public's vote and not even have them...

Morons...

Now...on to the REAL reason there are superdelegates...

The system was setup...much like Commie Russia...NOT to do the "will of the people", but to do the BEST OPTION for the Democratic Party...

Example...

Nominee "A" wins a majority of the primaries, but is found to have been in a scandal late in the race that virtually destroys the chances of that person to be the POTUS...That nominee WINS the overall amount of delegates and refuses to pull out of the race, yet the Democratic Party KNOWS that the scandal will ruin their chances at the presidency and will damage the party itself...

So the superdelegates...who were set up to make choices of THEIR OWN, could decide on whether or not to keep nominee "A" (which they wouldn't if they were smart) or decide upon nominee "B" (or "C", "D" and so on)...

In other words, they believe they have a DUTY to go against "the will of the people" if they believe "the will of the people" will ultimately hurt the party more than it helps...

Now that's the obvious case...another case would've been if someone like Kucinich or Gravel somehow rose to the top of the field...The Democratic leaders and their superdelegates KNOW that either one of them would get their clock cleaned by any Republican (except Paul), so they'd HAVE to vote differently from "the will of the people" in order to have a legitimate shot...

This setup, of course, didn't include what would happen in a close race like now when NEITHER candidate may end up getting enough delegates without superdelegate help...

To give you an idea of how badly this is setup, I'll throw out an analogy...

Imagine Major League Baseball set up the World Series like this...

"The first team to win 5 games is declared the champion...There will be a maximum of 7 games...If, after 7 games, one team is ahead 4-3, then that means that neither team has the required number of wins (5) to be declared champion, so we will have a vote from every manager and general manager in the league on who the champion should be."

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I believe Peloci is correct,perhaps she has come to see the light of the folly of having Superdelegates.Remember,this idiotic idea may not have been her idea! At any rate,now they have to find a way to fix it.

She is insisting that Superdelegates vote the "same" way as "pledged" delegates! There may not be enough time to get rid of them altogether before the convention not to mention the ramifications involved in dismissing them at "this" time!

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I just have 1 question and 2 points to make.

Where did the concept of these superdelgates come from?

They are like the electoral college it has out lasted it time and need to go away.

Gov. Bush is the only office he won by popular vote. So it need go away in this age of high tech.

And why isn't 2 states dem's voters not going to count? That is un-American to me.

Does she mean like the electoral college and the Supreme Court did? And no she didn't make them. The DNC did, way to much power like the GOP.

I believe at the very top one would see the same faces and names in both parties. Just look back the past 22 years and show me to be wrong.

The only question I can answer is the last one. The two states decided to move their primaries forward and were penalized by the DNC for doing so.

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Most likely she had her hand in it and she now sees the folly.The thinking is "similar" to one of the concepts that the Electoral College was designed for. To protect against mob rule. I don't buy that argument and never have.The DNC does not fully trust the people,they want to make sure that if a so called unelectable candidate is selected,they can override the decision with the Superdelegates.To say that this looks bad is an understatement!

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Michigan deserves what they got when they moved their primary date forward.The case is far different in Florida,the GOP moved up the date in that state and the Democrats were disenfranchised by the DNC for a move made by the GOP. At least that's what one of the talking heads on C-SPAN said.

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I explain it here...

Nope...

Contrary to popular opinion, the Constitution EXPLICITLY states that the people do note elect the president...The states do...

The popular vote is irrelevant...In fact, the winner of the states lost the popular vote twice...

Because primaries are not covered in the Constitution's electoral process...

They are party-controlled, so the party gets to decide the rules...Nomatter how fair or unfair one thinks...

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