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Old 02-24-2008, 04:49 PM
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I don't think your idea is weird at all... it's inciteful.
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I don't think the idea is weird though...

I think the fact that it hasn't happened is weird...
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Ah! Got it now.

Yes, I agree! The idea seems so darn obvious, now that you've said it, that it is a wonder that no one else has acted on it yet.
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He is so yesterday
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Ralph Nader running again -- impact on the race?

by Mark Silva and updated with analysis

Update and analysis

Nader, the longtime consumer advocate who played a likely spoiler’s role in the presidential election of 2000 but carried much less weight in 2004, said today that he will wage another campaign for president this year.

Nader, 73, is voicing a familiar refrain of disenchantment with the Democratic and Republican parties, a detachment which he believes is shared by many voters.

A protracted war in Iraq, struggling economy and tax breaks for the rich during the Bush administration have added to a sense of discontent among lower- and middle-class voters, Nader said, in announcing his candidacy during an interview on NBC News’ Meet the Press.

“You take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut out, marginalized and disrespected," Nader said. “In that context, I have decided to run for president.’’

[b]Yet experts say Nader's impact this year is likely to be limited.[/B
]“The truth is that Nader’s time has passed,’’ John Geer, a political scientist at Vanderbilt University, told the Tribune today.

As the candidate for the Green Party in 2000, Nader attracted just 2.7 percent of the vote nationwide.

Yet, with the 97,488 votes that he collected in Florida – 1.6 percent of the total there – many observers believe that Nader cost Democrat Al Gore victory in a state which George W. Bush carried by a disputed margin of 538 votes that year.

That Supreme Court-settled Florida vote also cost the Democrats the White House in a year when Gore won more than 500,000 more votes than Bush nationally – with Bush claiming a narrow majority of the Electoral College vote.

Yet, in 2004, when Nader ran as an independent, he garnered only 0.3 percent of the vote, appearing on the ballots of 34 states.

This year, Democrats say, the heavy turnout of voters attracted by the party’s early primary elections suggests more enthusiasm for the party’s candidates. Nader’s impact on the 2008 election campaign should be minimal, they say.

“I think it’s a non-event,’’ said Arizona Gov. Jane Napolitano, a Democrat supporting Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign for president, in an appearance today on CBS News’ Face the Nation. “They aren’t looking for a third-party candidate.’’

Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, a Democrat supporting Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign for president, agreed that Nader’s decision is “a non-event.’’

“There is unhappiness in the electorate, and (Texas Republican Rep.) Ron Paul's bid captures that anger,’’ Geer said. “But Ralph Nader is not the vehicle for the expression of this discontent. Nader was a spoiler in 2000 and will long be remembered for that. But when he ran in 2004, few cared.

“If Obama is the nominee in 2008, (Nader’s) share may well decline below 0.3 percent,’’ he said. “There is simply no room for Nader to run.’’


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If I were a Democrat, I'd be yelling it's a non-event into every microphone I see, too...

What I DON'T see is any Democrat saying "This is the American electoral process at work, and I'm proud to see that citizens have a right to join the race regardless of party affiliation."...
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