Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'

foundit66 · #1 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 01:31 PM

The United States Constitution never uses the word "God" or makes mention of any religion, drawing its sole authority from "We the People." However, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee thinks it's time to put an end to that.

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

When Willie Geist reported Huckabee's opinion on MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-host Mika Brzezinski was almost speechless, and even Joe Scarborough couldn't immediately find much to say beyond calling it "interesting,"

Scarborough finally suggested that while he believes "evangelicals should be able to talk politics ... some might find that statement very troubling, that we're going to change the Constitution to be in line with the Bible. And that's all I'm going to say."

The Raw Story | Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'

Yowza!
Separation of church and state???

I can't get the video at the moment.
Is there something else in the context which mitigates what I see as an incredibly frightening statement?

dabateman · #2 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foundit66

The United States Constitution never uses the word "God" or makes mention of any religion, drawing its sole authority from "We the People." However, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee thinks it's time to put an end to that.

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

When Willie Geist reported Huckabee's opinion on MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-host Mika Brzezinski was almost speechless, and even Joe Scarborough couldn't immediately find much to say beyond calling it "interesting,"

Scarborough finally suggested that while he believes "evangelicals should be able to talk politics ... some might find that statement very troubling, that we're going to change the Constitution to be in line with the Bible. And that's all I'm going to say."

The Raw Story | Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'

Yowza!
Separation of church and state???

I can't get the video at the moment.
Is there something else in the context which mitigates what I see as an incredibly frightening statement?

Glad he said it now... I must work diligently to ensure that this man does NOT get elected.

indago · #3 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 06:28 PM

dabateman wrote:

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Glad he said it now... I must work diligently to ensure that this man does NOT get elected.

Yes, scary isn't it...

The Pope was scheduled to give a speech at the Sapienza University in Rome. Some of the students and Professors there protested, declaring that "he is hostile to science". A reference was made to a speech that he gave "in 1990, when he was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger" in which he noted: "science has been used in destructive ways".

SO HAS RELIGION

cnredd · #4 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foundit66

The United States Constitution never uses the word "God" or makes mention of any religion, drawing its sole authority from "We the People." However, Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee thinks it's time to put an end to that.

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

When Willie Geist reported Huckabee's opinion on MSNBC's Morning Joe, co-host Mika Brzezinski was almost speechless, and even Joe Scarborough couldn't immediately find much to say beyond calling it "interesting,"

Scarborough finally suggested that while he believes "evangelicals should be able to talk politics ... some might find that statement very troubling, that we're going to change the Constitution to be in line with the Bible. And that's all I'm going to say."

The Raw Story | Huckabee: Amend Constitution to be in 'God's standards'

Yowza!
Separation of church and state???

I can't get the video at the moment.
Is there something else in the context which mitigates what I see as an incredibly frightening statement?

Perfect separation of church and state...

It's Raw Story, so you KNOW it's not true...)I'm not talking about what he said...I'm talking about the BLATANT misinterpretation)....

Two points...

1) According to the first paragraph, Huckabee says that he wats "God" and a mention of religion" in the Constitution...Which is a lie...Nowhere does Huckabee state anything close...

2) What Huckabee is saying is that he'd like to see "o amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards"...

Now I'll give an example of how MOST things in the Constitution are already up to "God's standards"...You can pick any one really...

Randomly, I looked at "Amendment 26 - Voting Age Set to 18 Years"

Question - Does this part of the Constitution CONFLICT with anything from anything construed as "God's standard"(Assuming Judeo-Christian "God)?...

Absolutely not...So Huckabee would believe there's no need to touch it...

DISCLAIMER - IMO, that's probably the way it is for almost, if not everything (I'm no Constitutional expert, so I don't know if anything would reasonably conflict with any "God standard")...

The reasonable question that someone SHOULD'VE asked is "What part of the Constitution do you think needs to be amended...AND HOW?...

IF...IF IF IF IF...Huckabee responded by pointing out that part, THEN said how "God" or "a mention of religion" should be added, THEN Raw Story's first paragraph would be found to be true...

But that didn't happen...So they are liars...

Most of our laws...not just the Constitution...are founded on "God's standard"...I don't think I need to show anything more than simply "Thou shalt not kill" as an example...

Yagmi · #5 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 06:52 PM

YouTube - Huckabee: Amend Constitution to Reflect...

Spencer Collins · #6 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 06:55 PM

I have always liked Huckabee but as stated in many of my posts,I'm a little concerned with his candidacy.I believe this nation was founded on Christian principles.HOWEVER...caution is advised here,the devil is in the "details" and I need more information. For the moment,I will keep my powder dry..

cnredd · #7 (**permalink**) 01-16-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

caution is advised here,the devil is in the "details" and I need more information. For the moment,I will keep my powder dry..

That's they state I'm in...

I've seen nothing SO FAR that makes the statement out to be what it's interpreted as...

Adept1 · #8 (**permalink**) 01-17-2008, 02:45 AM

Morons

You people absolutely amaze me!

Even if that was what he said give this more than .000000000000001 seconds of thought.
If someone says that they think that the Constitution should be amended to say ANYTHING then what they are actually saying is that the topic should be brought forward in a legal way to ask for a totally PROPER VOTE on it.
When you condemn someone for recommending that we FOLLOW the established legal system of our country there must be something WRONG with your logic.
The alternative is part of the divide in this country. Let unelected JUDGES decide like was done with abortion and several other issues instead of allowing "the people using the proper system" to make such decisions. To seek a change in the Constitution is a long and deliberately tough process and if you oppose the idea you will be given more than a few chances to STOP the process as has been done in the past and SHOULD continue to be done. Many like to claim that it is a "living and breathing document" and then turn around and mock anyone that proposes any changes to it.

dabateman · #9 (**permalink**) 01-17-2008, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Adept1

Morons

You people absolutely amaze me!

Even if that was what he said give this more than .000000000000001 seconds of thought.
If someone says that they think that the Constitution should be amended to say ANYTHING then what they are actually saying is that the topic should be brought forward in a legal way to ask for a totally PROPER VOTE on it.
When you condemn someone for recommending that we FOLLOW the established legal system of our country there must be something WRONG with your logic.
The alternative is part of the divide in this country. Let unelected JUDGES decide like was done with abortion and several other issues instead of allowing "the people using the proper system" to make such decisions. To seek a change in the Constitution is a long and deliberately tough process and if you oppose the idea you will be given more than a few chances to STOP the process as has been done in the past and SHOULD continue to be done. Many like to claim that it is a "living and breathing document" and then turn around and mock anyone that proposes any changes to it.

No, we condemn him for his complete lack of respect for the separation of church and state. I'm sure he wants to do it legally but just because you can sway the masses into something doesn't make it right.

MountainMike · #10 (**permalink**) 01-17-2008, 11:37 AM

I want to see this story confirmed from other sources.

If true, it will be political suicide for ol' Huckster. Of course, he will be the darling of right wing fundamentalist Christian Republicans, but that special interest group will not be able to win enough voted in a general election to win. Of greater concern, they could possibly win enough votes within the GOP to nominate him and therefore lead the Republican party into political suicide.

Meet the Fundies! Pat Robertson, people from Gerry Falwell's coalition and college, Dr Dobson (of SpongeBob homophobia fame). With a Huckabee nomination as the Republican candidate for 2008, that would look like the tail wagging the Republican dog.

Personally I resent the Republican fundamentalists holier than thou attitude and always trying to find ways to ram their beliefs down everyone elses' throats via government.

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