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Evan McMorris-Santoro | November 20

It's been a week since Attorney General Eric Holder announced that five terror suspects will be transferred from Guantanamo Bay to New York City to face trial. There are still a lot of questions to be answered about logistics, and it will likely be months before the first suspect sets foot in a federal courtroom.

Republicans have already told us what's going to happen, though: If you let President Obama have his way, you will die.

The GOP has returned to a familiar line on Obama and national security in the days since Holder's announcement. It's time to be afraid again, they say, hearkening back to the days of duct tape and Orange alerts even some Republicans thought they left behind on Election Day 2008.

So grab an assault rifle and keep the phone number for Operation TIPS close -- here are the four ways Republicans say Obama is putting your life at risk.

4. Surrendering In The War On Terror

According to the GOP, Obama has abandoned the war on terror to appease his left-wing friends. On a conference call yesterday, Rudy Giuliani said he welcomed the return of the word "war" into the administration lexicon. Giuliani said that before Holder used the word the other day, he was afraid that Obama had forgotten about all that 9/11 stuff Giuliani made sure was a part of the GOP primary for president last year.

"I was under the impression that the Obama administration thought this was just an unfortunate situation we're dealing with," he said.

Rudy's not the only one. Many Republicans have claimed recently that Obama has returned the government to a "pre-9/11 mentality" where things like legal rights take precedence over things like unchecked wiretapping ability. At a press conference the other day, Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) suggested that it was this mentality literally led to the deaths of 13 American soldiers in Texas. Hoekstra said there were "tools" that George W. Bush and the Republicans gave the intelligence community that Obama and Democrats have since taken away. He said that those tools may have prevented the killings in Texas, and he wants to hold hearings to investigate before the Democrats can take away more tools by letting provisions in the Patriot Act expire at the end of this year.


Watch Hoekstra explain how the U.S. government is "unable or unwilling" to track potential terrorists:

YouTube - Hoekstra: Hasan Fits The Al-Qaeda Model

3. Daring The Terrorists To Attack Us Again

Sorry, New York City. Obama's plan to try terror suspects on American soil means you're probably going to get hit. That's according to Rep. Peter King (R-NY) who told reporters this week that the move was "one of the most dangerous decisions any president has ever made."

That's pretty dangerous. Giuliani backed up fellow New Yorker King. Though he praised the staff at the detention center where the suspects will likely be held and he said more than once that the city he used to run is "ready" to host the trials, he said that when it comes down to it, the trials will probably not end well for New York.

"Does it increase risk to New York City?" Giuliani said. "Yes."

2. Allowing Muslims To Walk Around Like "Regular" Americans

It's more than just secret "tools" Obama has taken away from intelligence agencies that puts your life at risk, according to Republicans. Obama's unwavering allegiance to Political Correctness means you're probably going to die because law enforcement officials are too afraid of looking like racists to stop the terrorists from carrying out their nefarious plots.

In a media stop on her book tour this week, Sarah Palin said that this devotion to being P.C. literally cost 13 soldiers at Ft. Hood their lives.

"I think that there were massive warning flags that were missed all over the place," she told Fox News' Sean Hannity. "And I think that it was quite unfortunate that, to me, it was a fear of being politically incorrect to not -- I am going to use the word -- profile this guy, profile in the sense of finding out what his radical beliefs were."

Palin's take isn't unique among Republicans. Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI), a former Special Agent with the FBI, said this week that his old buddies in the Bureau are telling him about a new "political philosophy" sent down from the White House that's keeping agents from "raising the red flag" on a "person like" alleged Ft. Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan. Rogers said Hasan "fits the exactly the kind of profile [of a person] we know pretty bad people want to recruit to do pretty bad things," but said it's possible the "threshold" of tolerating someone like Hasan has been raised so that he and others like him are falling through the cracks.

"It's something we have to get to the bottom of," Rogers said.


1. Trading Safety for Good paying Government Jobs

Obama isn't content risking the lives of soldiers and New Yorkers to look good to his liberal friends, Republicans say. He's willing to trade the safety of America's heartland for a little political capital, too.

The White House has suggested moving Gitmo detainees to relatively empty prisons all over the country, including sites in economically depressed towns in Michigan and Illinois.

The White House and local officials in Illinois have said the plan will bring desperately needed jobs to communities ravaged by the economic downturn.

Despite the fact that guards are paid to look after society's most dangerous people in prisons all over the country, Republicans are warning that the promised jobs are simply a "bribe" Obama is using to talk small Midwestern towns into becoming terror targets.

Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) and other Republicans have spelled out the danger to rural America posed by housing Gitmo detainees.

"Federal policy allows up to 10 followers or family members per prisoner," Kirk said a recent press conference. "With 215 coming to Illinois, that would be over 2,100 Al Qaeda followers and family members connected to Jihad coming to Illinois."

Prison officials say that's actually not true, but Kirk's message is clear -- taking one of Obama's promised jobs means your family could die in a terrorist attack.

At press conference sponsored by World Net Daily earlier this week, Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) suggested terrorism could actually a boon to Democrats desperate to create new jobs.

"Democrats have a jobs program," he said. "First they'll make jobs housing the terrorists here. And then they might create more jobs dealing with the havoc [the terrorists] create."

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If Bush had kept his meeting with Arafat, 9-11 and thus Ft. Hood might never have happened.
And they say Obama is arrogant?
Bush's arrogance arguably has cost us the lives of 3000+ Americans. And those fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Is this coming from the same side that tells us the world is dying from cow farts and people yawning and we need to destroy capitalism to save it?...

Is this coming from the same side that tells us the country would've collapsed if we didn't throw over 3/4ths of a trillion dollars at it?...

Is this coming from the same side that tells us the current healthcare system intentionally kills tens of thousands of people every year because of people in suits who've never met them instead of blaming personal responsibility and/or the lack of human resistance?...

Is this coming from the same side that tells us we're the blame for all of the violent deaths in the world because we're too strong and overbearing instead of blaming the actual people that tell us they've been commanded to kill by their god?...
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Bush's arrogance arguably has cost us the lives of 3000+ Americans. And those fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Arguably if you want to blame your own country when it's to your political advantage...

Me?...I blame the people who DID it...
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If Bush had kept his meeting with Arafat, 9-11 and thus Ft. Hood might never have happened.
And they say Obama is arrogant?
Bush's arrogance arguably has cost us the lives of 3000+ Americans. And those fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Nobel Peace Prize winner Yasser Arafat?
The man who was Clinton's "most often foreign guest" in the White house that even waited one time for Monica to finish?
The man who BACKED OUT of a deal where he got 95% of everything he wanted FROM Israel?
The terrorist Yasser Arafat that stole BILLIONS from the Palestinians and who's wife STILL lives high on the hog (oooops I mean goat) in Europe?
The Yasser Arafat that had no connection to Al Queda (your 9/11 reference) or any other terrorist groups......(say this next word like a sneeze)Hamas.


Tell me more about this "meeting" that Bush "missed" and pretend like the attack on 9/11 was planned and the pilots trained in the 8 months he had in office before the attacks and even less time from any such meeting. Not to mention how the "transition" was deliberately "dithered" by the outgoing administration. (Compare that to Bush's class while exiting)
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Point number 3 makes no sense. How in the world does this encourage another attack?
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Point number 3 makes no sense. How in the world does this encourage another attack?
Having the trial in NYC "may" encourage another terrorist attack but I believe this is true no matter where the trial is held "outside" of Gitmo. Some of the stuff in the OP is a bit over the top but I believe this concern is legitimate.NYC has been through enough...I would not have picked that venue..

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Is this coming from the same side that tells us the world is dying from cow farts and people yawning and we need to destroy capitalism to save it?...
If you rode through parts of Iowa and Nebraska often, you would know cow farts are a real danger!

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Is this coming from the same side that tells us the country would've collapsed if we didn't throw over 3/4ths of a trillion dollars at it?...
You prefer the side that threw 20 billion dollars at the post 9-11 airlines but nothing at the freshly laid off 90 thousand airline workers? To each his own.
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Is this coming from the same side that tells us the current healthcare system intentionally kills tens of thousands of people every year because of people in suits who've never met them instead of blaming personal responsibility and/or the lack of human resistance?...
This is coming from the side that says CEO's used to make 80% more than their third in command and by 2008 increased that to two-hundred-sixty% and that that money had to come from somewhere.
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Is this coming from the same side that tells us we're the blame for all of the violent deaths in the world because we're too strong and overbearing instead of blaming the actual people that tell us they've been commanded to kill by their god?...
You guys' denial that GW's snubbing of Arafat had nothing to do with 9-11 is overwhelming.
Where do you think these suicide bombers came from? They didn't just wake up one day and say gee, I'm tired of college, think I'll go out and blow myself up and take out some Israelis. It is about land and resources and sovereignty. The peace negotiations should have continued. You cannot negotiate when one side is missing from the table.
If canceling the meeting with Arafat was not intentionally meant to stir up trouble and start a war, then it was the stupidest thing Bush Jr ever did in his life.
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You guys' denial that GW's snubbing of Arafat had nothing to do with 9-11 is overwhelming.
Considering that the perpetrators hatched the 911 plot YEARS BEFORE GWB TOOK OFFICE shows that what you think is wrong, false, illogical, and partisan hackery...
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Considering that the perpetrators hatched the 911 plot YEARS BEFORE GWB TOOK OFFICE shows that what you think is wrong, false, illogical, and partisan hackery...
There have been terrorist type training camps since before the cold war. America participated and in some cases instigated some.
You ever think about the concept of the straw that broke the camel's back scenario?
This is no partisan tactic. It is my personal opinion and I formed it during the time the events were ongoing.
It's like the last big mafia leader finally going down. The government didn't realize he had a role in keeping drugs under better control after years of experience and inherited ties. Now every child on a street corner sells the stuff.
It would have been better to negotiate with a known enemy than take what symbolism he retained and let the gates be flooded with those ready to create chaos.
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