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Yes, you are correct, but a teacup poodle is not likely to rip your arm off. German Shepards are almost physically as strong, but are more even-tempered or predictable. Any one pitbull can be held up as an aexample of a good dog, but as a breed they are more dangerous than other dogs.

Trying working in a shelter with dozens of animals and you will see what I mean.

And I am not blaming the dog, but there are too many strays that out there besides just pitbulls right now. All of them need to be spayed/neutered. To do otherwise is irresponsible.
When I was a teenager people said the same thing about German Shepards that they now say about Pit Bulls. When my mother bought me one for my 13th birthday, dozens of people asked her if she was not afraid that the dog would turn on me or other family members.

It was all BS based on misrepresentation of the breed by the media. The same is true of the reputation that Pit Bulls have today.
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When I was a teenager people said the same thing about German Shepards that they now say about Pit Bulls. When my mother bought me one for my 13th birthday, dozens of people asked her if she was not afraid that the dog would turn on me or other family members.

It was all BS based on misrepresentation of the breed by the media. The same is true of the reputation that Pit Bulls have today.
I'm not saying there aren't nice individual pit bulls, but there are definitely certain breeds of dogs that are less stable.
As a child, I had two different Dalmations at different times, and both of them turned out to be batsh!t insane and completely unsuitable for a household with a kid. After the first one attacked a little friend of mine (apropos of nothing), my dad had her put to sleep. He told me he'd taken her to live on a farm in the country. I cried... because I was scared she'd find her way back to our house and attack me too. So then my dad told me the truth: that she was dead.
Stupidly, we got a second Dalmation a couple of years later, but she was no better. She was worse; both deaf and crazy. We couldn't even go in the backyard because we were scared of her. She didn't last long.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is, some dog breeds deserve their reputations as 'unstable' (even if certain individual members of that breed may be the best dogs ever).
If the unstable dog breed in question is chihuahuas (which I suspect are an unstable breed, although I've never had any significant contact with one), then who cares; they're too small and weak to do much real damage, even to a child.
But a large breed like pit bulls... well, if a pit bull is unstable, society's got a problem on its hands.
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I'm not saying there aren't nice individual pit bulls, but there are definitely certain breeds of dogs that are less stable.
As a child, I had two different Dalmations at different times, and both of them turned out to be batsh!t insane and completely unsuitable for a household with a kid. After the first one attacked a little friend of mine (apropos of nothing), my dad had her put to sleep. He told me he'd taken her to live on a farm in the country. I cried... because I was scared she'd find her way back to our house and attack me too. So then my dad told me the truth: that she was dead.
Stupidly, we got a second Dalmation a couple of years later, but she was no better. She was worse; both deaf and crazy. We couldn't even go in the backyard because we were scared of her. She didn't last long.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is, some dog breeds deserve their reputations as 'unstable' (even if certain individual members of that breed may be the best dogs ever).
If the unstable dog breed in question is chihuahuas (which I suspect are an unstable breed, although I've never had any significant contact with one), then who cares; they're too small and weak to do much real damage, even to a child.
But a large breed like pit bulls... well, if a pit bull is unstable, society's got a problem on its hands.

And I am saying that you are wrong. Two crazy Dalmations do not prove that Dalmations are crazy any more than two crazy humans prove that humans are crazy.

Dalmations are high-spirited, strong-willed dogs who generally need to be raised by someone who knows what they are doing. I have no idea wheter your problem with Dalmations was the dogs or if your household was simply an unsuitable environment for them.
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And I am saying that you are wrong. Two crazy Dalmations do not prove that Dalmations are crazy any more than two crazy humans prove that humans are crazy.

Dalmations are high-spirited, strong-willed dogs who generally need to be raised by someone who knows what they are doing. I have no idea wheter your problem with Dalmations was the dogs or if your household was simply an unsuitable environment for them.
Well, you could be right, as my experience with dogs is limited to what I posted above, plus a friend's pit bull which tried to attack my son when he was four or five (the dog knew my son, but did not recognize him in his batman cape and mask, and sort of leaped at him; fortunately, he was on a leash at the time, and was contained).
I'm really not that fond of dogs.

I am fond of cats, however, and very familiar with them, and even among cats there is considerable difference in the personalities of various breeds.
I mean, each cat is an individual, but there are characteristic traits of, say, Siamese cats. I would not expect dogs to be different.
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Well, you could be right, as my experience with dogs is limited to what I posted above, plus a friend's pit bull which tried to attack my son when he was four or five (the dog knew my son, but did not recognize him in his batman cape and mask, and sort of leaped at him; fortunately, he was on a leash at the time, and was contained).
I'm really not that fond of dogs.

I am fond of cats, however, and very familiar with them, and even among cats there is considerable difference in the personalities of various breeds.
I mean, each cat is an individual, but there are characteristic traits of, say, Siamese cats. I would not expect dogs to be different.
Dogs do have breed traits. Some breeds require experienced owners. The mistake many people is that they humanize dogs and that leads to unwanted behaviors. Many people don't understand dog's needs which includes exercise and discipline (not punishment, mind you). Dogs need boundaries. Many people fail at providing boundaries.
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I think he's in a happy loving home now and hopefully has no memory of his horrible abuse.
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I think he's in a happy loving home now and hopefully has no memory of his horrible abuse.
Dogs never forget. Dogs don't rationalize things therefore they can recover much quicker than people. I'm so glad he is doing so well. He looks like a great dog!
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