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Old 01-14-2022, 06:33 AM
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You act like this was not an effort to stop the certifying of electoral votes and that republican and democrat lawmakers weren't hiding/ and running for their lives.
The congress critters were seeking shelter, which I have no problem with. However, that is irrelevant to this specific case.

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He didn't know she was unarmed in a quick instant when he was trying to keep congressmen from being killed or hurt.
So, now it's shoot first and then worry about if they are armed or not. Got it.

Would this apply to me if someone were walking aggressively towards me in WalMart? I suspect I would be arrested and charged with murder.

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She knew what she was doing was wrong.
People that are jay walking know what they are doing is wrong, but they don't expect to be shot for doing it. The three guys that attacked Kyle
Rittenhouse knew what they were doing was wrong, but somehow you exonerate them and blame their deaths on Rittenhouse.

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She even has a history of pushing out her aggression. This time she confronted the worst set of circumstances to do that.
Are you suggesting that the LEO knew this when he shot Babbitt and that was justification for the shooting? If not, then it is completely irrelevant in regards to the incident.
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The congress critters were seeking shelter, which I have no problem with. However, that is irrelevant to this specific case.
officer sworn to protect congressmen/women
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So, now it's shoot first and then worry about if they are armed or not. Got it.
during a violent insurrection yes. breaking the window was violent and in the heat of the moment her intent was unknown.

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Would this apply to me if someone were walking aggressively towards me in WalMart? I suspect I would be arrested and charged with murder.
the united states capitol is not walmart. yes it is a different situation.

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People that are jay walking know what they are doing is wrong, but they don't expect to be shot for doing it. The three guys that attacked Kyle
Rittenhouse knew what they were doing was wrong, but somehow you exonerate them and blame their deaths on Rittenhouse.
Rittenhouse was also doing wrong. difference is he took life into his own hands while they did not; again not the united states capitol

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Are you suggesting that the LEO knew this when he shot Babbitt and that was justification for the shooting? If not, then it is completely irrelevant in regards to the incident.
what he didn't know was her intent and if she was armed.
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during a violent insurrection yes. breaking the window was violent and in the heat of the moment her intent was unknown.


the united states capitol is not walmart. yes it is a different situation.


Rittenhouse was also doing wrong. difference is he took life into his own hands while they did not; again not the united states capitol


what he didn't know was her intent and if she was armed.
Anytime an officer doesn't know a suspect's "intent" police are authorized to blaze away. What a marvel "intent" is for Democrats it's the universal excuse to cover wrongdoing when politically advantageous to them. The FBI finds lots of criminal activity in the conspiracy to illegally use a private email server headed by the Secretary of State but announces no charges will be filed due to lack of "intent". Now the intent shield has been expanded for servants of the Democrat party to include justification of gunning down a protester because her intent was unknown. Of course Democrat loving media and party lackeys are flawless in their interpretation of Republican intent, they want to put you back in chains.

In the summer of 2020 a violent mob of Leftist thugs attempted to storm the WH. They came close enough to succeeding the President had to be evacuated to the underground fortified bunker because the WH security was jepordized. The mob was repulsed without the Capitol police firing a single shot. Thwarted in their desire to inflict mob justice on the Bad Orange man the mob demonstrated their intent by setting fire to the church accross the street. Later the mob pelted park police with concrete block pieces and bricks provided by organizers of the mostly peaceful protest.

The mob attacking the WH demonstrated its propensity for violence repeatedly yet Democrats brayed about the alleged loss of civil rights when police used non lethal measures to displace the mob. In contrast a protester at the US Capitol can be justifiably executed for trespassing because their "intent" is unknown.
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Anytime an officer doesn't know a suspect's "intent" police are authorized to blaze away. What a marvel "intent" is for Democrats it's the universal excuse to cover wrongdoing when politically advantageous to them. The FBI finds lots of criminal activity in the conspiracy to illegally use a private email server headed by the Secretary of State but announces no charges will be filed due to lack of "intent". Now the intent shield has been expanded for servants of the Democrat party to include justification of gunning down a protester because her intent was unknown. Of course Democrat loving media and party lackeys are flawless in their interpretation of Republican intent, they want to put you back in chains.

In the summer of 2020 a violent mob of Leftist thugs attempted to storm the WH. They came close enough to succeeding the President had to be evacuated to the underground fortified bunker because the WH security was jepordized. The mob was repulsed without the Capitol police firing a single shot. Thwarted in their desire to inflict mob justice on the Bad Orange man the mob demonstrated their intent by setting fire to the church accross the street. Later the mob pelted park police with concrete block pieces and bricks provided by organizers of the mostly peaceful protest.

The mob attacking the WH demonstrated its propensity for violence repeatedly yet Democrats brayed about the alleged loss of civil rights when police used non lethal measures to displace the mob. In contrast a protester at the US Capitol can be justifiably executed for trespassing because their "intent" is unknown.
There was already violence and lawmakers running and hiding for their lives. It wasn't out of the blue that this cop shot this woman.
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Many of the same people who demanded Kyle Rittenhouse be sent to prison for responding with deadly force to being hit in the head with a skateboard, having someone who earlier in the evening threatened to kill "people like him" attempt to take his gun and having a pistol stuck in his face while he was laying in the street, now proclaim the Capitol police officer who gunned down Ashli Babbitt because he was afraid a savior of democracy. It doesn't matter that there were 3 uniformed Capitol police officers in the the background the panicked officer might have injured or killed, it doesn't matter that of the thousands of interactions between protesters and Capitol police including violent clashes a single officer decided to escalate to deadly force applied to a nonviolent protester some 15 feet away, all that's important is the victim was a Trump supporter who followed Quannon, a thought criminal deserving execution.
This same doctor agrees with the verdict that in the end Rittenhouse was not guilty. people are not just one way on every subject except for the cultish personality. This was a real time situation.
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You act like this was not an effort to stop the certifying of electoral votes and that republican and democrat lawmakers weren't hiding/ and running for their lives. He didn't know she was unarmed in a quick instant when he was trying to keep congressmen from being killed or hurt. She knew what she was doing was wrong. She even has a history of pushing out her aggression. This time she confronted the worst set of circumstances to do that.
So the same Dems who are going to save our democracy got caught rigging the 2016 primary and then in 2020 all worked together to help Biden beat Sanders and even had all their candidates say the person with the most votes doesn't win because Bernie was leading?

Really?
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There was already violence and lawmakers running and hiding for their lives. It wasn't out of the blue that this cop shot this woman.
It wasn't out of the blue, he said he shot her because he was afraid, he couldn't see her hands and he couldn't determine her intentions. So a fearful cop with no evidence of a threat was justified gunning down a protester for trespassing? Really? Would you accept this rationale for a cop shooting a BLM rioter? Of course not. But it's ok because Ashli Babbitt was just a Trump supporter, her government approved murder sent a message to the others.

If the violence at the Capitol protest was so widespread, so profound why was there only 1 police officer opening fire? Other Capitol police officers held doors open for protesters and then escorted them around the Capitol. In statuary hall almost all of the protesters calmly walked between the aisle created for tourists.
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It wasn't out of the blue, he said he shot her because he was afraid, he couldn't see her hands and he couldn't determine her intentions. So a fearful cop with no evidence of a threat was justified gunning down a protester for trespassing? Really? Would you accept this rationale for a cop shooting a BLM rioter? Of course not. But it's ok because Ashli Babbitt was just a Trump supporter, her government approved murder sent a message to the others.

If the violence at the Capitol protest was so widespread, so profound why was there only 1 police officer opening fire? Other Capitol police officers held doors open for protesters and then escorted them around the Capitol. In statuary hall almost all of the protesters calmly walked between the aisle created for tourists.

That was one message, the other was the imprisonment of political adversaries, AKA Political Prisoners. This message is loud and clear,
The Democrats can lock you up in solitary confinement until they find something to charge you for,
but first you will be tried and convicted in the court of the MSM.
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