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Old 07-10-2020, 12:35 AM
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Default Trump's last line of defense is the economy. Biden and Democrats must knock it down.

Once again, I'm not posting this because I commend it...

I'm posting it to show how disgraceful it is...

Move over Bill Maher...Others want the economy destroyed and millions of people in poverty if it means the Democrats gain power...

"Bradley Beychok is the co-founder and president of the Democratic super PAC American Bridge 21st Century."

Trump's last line of defense is the economy. Biden and Democrats must knock it down.

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The polling is clear: President Donald Trump is on the ropes and Americans are crying out for new leadership as they watch the dire consequences of his chaotic, crass and corrupt presidency unfold against the backdrop of a pandemic and deepening recession. But we are far from the finish line, and while Trump’s support may be dwindling, he still has a leg to stand on.

Among the swing voters who will help decide this election, President Trump still maintains a significant advantage over presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden on the question of who is best suited to lead America out of this economic crisis. If we want to ensure that Trump does not win a second term, we need to cut off the last leg of his reelection bid.

It’s the economy, Democrats.
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Old 07-10-2020, 07:28 AM
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Once again, I'm not posting this because I commend it...

I'm posting it to show how disgraceful it is...

Move over Bill Maher...Others want the economy destroyed and millions of people in poverty if it means the Democrats gain power...

"Bradley Beychok is the co-founder and president of the Democratic super PAC American Bridge 21st Century."

Trump's last line of defense is the economy. Biden and Democrats must knock it down.
The opening gambit of the article says it all. Disparage the target, set the seeds for justification, make it personal, and offer a solution. Go ahead and sell your soul to the devil....

Those who seem all too willing to suck up everything they are fed from the media without critical thought or mental verification will clamor 'Yes! Yes!!' and some (unnamed poster) will think they have a valid point when they say "Trump is on his last leg! The economic issues are HIS fault!' without actually looking at what has happened worldwide https://www.theguardian.com/business...mage-says-oecd

I still have to wonder what blindness overtakes the supporters of the DNC, when they actually try and claim Trump responsible for COVID-19. Yes, he could have done this better or that faster, all wonderful in 20/20 hindsight. What guarantee do they have that anyone else would have reacted faster or better to an unknown quantity?
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I still have to wonder what blindness overtakes the supporters of the DNC, when they actually try and claim Trump responsible for COVID-19. Yes, he could have done this better or that faster, all wonderful in 20/20 hindsight. What guarantee do they have that anyone else would have reacted faster or better to an unknown quantity?
For well over a month, while the virus was taking hold in this country, Trump repeatedly lied about the threat of the virus, the country's preparedness for it, and what he had done about. He is not responsible for the virus, but he sure as hell is responsible for the botched federal response. Had he taken immediate action, and focussed on a response, instead of a coverup, the economy and this public health disaster would be in far better shape today. We spent three years with the rational people in this country saying that Trump was terrible, but we were lucky that he hadn't had to face a real national crisis. He finally did and we are all suffering far more than we need to because people were stupid enough to think that a TV game show host was qualified to be president. He's gone in 6 months,. but the damage will last for years, if not decades.
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The opening gambit of the article says it all. Disparage the target, set the seeds for justification, make it personal, and offer a solution. Go ahead and sell your soul to the devil....

Those who seem all too willing to suck up everything they are fed from the media without critical thought or mental verification will clamor 'Yes! Yes!!' and some (unnamed poster) will think they have a valid point when they say "Trump is on his last leg! The economic issues are HIS fault!' without actually looking at what has happened worldwide https://www.theguardian.com/business...mage-says-oecd

I still have to wonder what blindness overtakes the supporters of the DNC, when they actually try and claim Trump responsible for COVID-19. Yes, he could have done this better or that faster, all wonderful in 20/20 hindsight. What guarantee do they have that anyone else would have reacted faster or better to an unknown quantity?
You don't understand, the whole strategy is tear down Trump and destroy the Republic. The hack socialist solutions of the green new deal and Biden's raise taxes, kill school choice, amnesty for illegal aliens, and open borders are being soft pedalled because they have a history of failing. But, it doesn't matter if they have no workable solutions, it doesn't matter that Biden isn't capable of running the Presidency all that's needed is to keep on chanting like some latterday Dorthy "Orange man bad.
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For well over a month, while the virus was taking hold in this country, Trump repeatedly lied about the threat of the virus, the country's preparedness for it, and what he had done about. He is not responsible for the virus, but he sure as hell is responsible for the botched federal response. Had he taken immediate action, and focussed on a response, instead of a coverup, the economy and this public health disaster would be in far better shape today. We spent three years with the rational people in this country saying that Trump was terrible, but we were lucky that he hadn't had to face a real national crisis. He finally did and we are all suffering far more than we need to because people were stupid enough to think that a TV game show host was qualified to be president. He's gone in 6 months,. but the damage will last for years, if not decades.
There is a project management classic "The Mythical Man Month" that exposes the folly of blindly scheduling completion dates with "if one woman can have a baby in 9 months then 9 women ought to be able to have a baby in 1 month". In this case the mythical month is never specified by dates, that would lend itself to rebuttal.


Tie the President up defending a bogus partisan impeachment that even Resistance Democrats knew was bound to fail then condemn him for being too slow to respond. Ignore the corruption of the WHO. Pretend the Chinese didn't destroy data and block access by health officials. Pretend the Resistance Democrats didn't condemn travel restrictions as xenophobic before criticizing them as incomplete.

Just remember Orange man bad.
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For well over a month, while the virus was taking hold in this country, Trump repeatedly lied about the threat of the virus, the country's preparedness for it, and what he had done about. He is not responsible for the virus, but he sure as hell is responsible for the botched federal response. Had he taken immediate action, and focussed on a response, instead of a coverup, the economy and this public health disaster would be in far better shape today. We spent three years with the rational people in this country saying that Trump was terrible, but we were lucky that he hadn't had to face a real national crisis. He finally did and we are all suffering far more than we need to because people were stupid enough to think that a TV game show host was qualified to be president. He's gone in 6 months,. but the damage will last for years, if not decades.
More wild speculation with nothing to back it up. There's not a shred of evidence that is correct.
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There is a project management classic "The Mythical Man Month" that exposes the folly of blindly scheduling completion dates with "if one woman can have a baby in 9 months then 9 women ought to be able to have a baby in 1 month". In this case the mythical month is never specified by dates, that would lend itself to rebuttal.


Tie the President up defending a bogus partisan impeachment that even Resistance Democrats knew was bound to fail then condemn him for being too slow to respond. Ignore the corruption of the WHO. Pretend the Chinese didn't destroy data and block access by health officials. Pretend the Resistance Democrats didn't condemn travel restrictions as xenophobic before criticizing them as incomplete.

Just remember Orange man bad.
Reducing the simple fact that the president is terrible to a cliche doesn't change the fact that he is, in fact, bad, the worst even. If you have a short-term memory problem, the month in question was actually more than a month, as it included late January, all of February and the beginning of March. And it's not like he stopped with the lying and mismanagement in March.

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For well over a month, while the virus was taking hold in this country, Trump repeatedly lied about the threat of the virus, the country's preparedness for it, and what he had done about. He is not responsible for the virus, but he sure as hell is responsible for the botched federal response. Had he taken immediate action, and focussed on a response, instead of a coverup, the economy and this public health disaster would be in far better shape today. We spent three years with the rational people in this country saying that Trump was terrible, but we were lucky that he hadn't had to face a real national crisis. He finally did and we are all suffering far more than we need to because people were stupid enough to think that a TV game show host was qualified to be president. He's gone in 6 months,. but the damage will last for years, if not decades.
Below are some specific dates when actions or words were said, pay close attention to New York, the hardest hit area of the country.

Jan. 31: Trump issues the "Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus." Later in the day, Biden campaigns in Iowa and tells the crowd that Americans “need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. ... This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

Feb. 2: New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot tweets: “As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus."

Feb. 7: Barbot strikes again, assuring residents, "We’re telling New Yorkers, go about your lives, take the subway, go out, enjoy life." City lawmakers have called for Barbot to be fired because of the comments.

Feb. 13: "There are ZERO confirmed cases of coronavirus in New York City, and hundreds of Chinese restaurants that need your business!" the New York City mayor's office tweets. "There is nothing to fear. Stop by any Chinatown for lunch or dinner!"
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio adds: "It was my honor to spend time with our Asian-American owned small businesses in Flushing today. This vibrant community is standing strong but they need YOUR support. Our Chinatowns are open for business — make some dinner plans, do some shopping and stand with our neighbors!"

Feb. 24: “It’s exciting to be here, especially at this time, to be able to be unified with our community,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., tells reporters as she visits San Francisco's Chinatown. “We want to be vigilant about what is out there in other places. We want to be careful about how we deal with it, but we do want to say to people ‘Come to Chinatown, here we are — we're, again, careful, safe — and come join us.'”

Mar. 2: "Since I’m encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives + get out on the town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions," de Blasio, the mayor of New York City, tweets. "Here’s the first: thru Thurs 3/5 go see 'The Traitor' @FilmLinc. If 'The Wire' was a true story + set in Italy, it would be this film."

Mar. 4: Barbot, the top New York City health official, declares, “There’s no indication that being in a car, being in the subways with someone who’s potentially sick is a risk factor."
On CNN, Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta downplay the virus.
“The flu right now is far deadlier," Cooper says. "So if you’re freaked out at all about the coronavirus you should be more concerned about the flu, and you can actually do something about it, and get a flu shot."
"15,000 people roughly have already died of the flu this season," Gupta responded. "Couple years ago, 60,000 people died of the flu."

Mar. 9: At a Fox News town hall, Bernie Sanders says he would not close the border, even if it were necessary to halt the spread of coronavirus. He then attacked Trump's "xenophobia."

Mar. 11: Trump blocks most travel from continental Europe.
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For well over a month, while the virus was taking hold in this country, Trump repeatedly lied about the threat of the virus, the country's preparedness for it, and what he had done about. He is not responsible for the virus, but he sure as hell is responsible for the botched federal response. Had he taken immediate action, and focussed on a response, instead of a coverup, the economy and this public health disaster would be in far better shape today. We spent three years with the rational people in this country saying that Trump was terrible, but we were lucky that he hadn't had to face a real national crisis. He finally did and we are all suffering far more than we need to because people were stupid enough to think that a TV game show host was qualified to be president. He's gone in 6 months,. but the damage will last for years, if not decades.
Exactly what was 'botched'? Opinions that he may not have moved fast enough, or told everybody they were gonna die, don't mean that he actually botched anything, since there is no proof that anyone else would have moved any faster. With Fauci flip flopping more than Mitt Romney regarding the seriousness of the virus, and about mask usage, or even social distancing, you feel we were supposed to be getting better information from where?

I'm sure you would bring up the Emergency Response Team that Trump 'dismantled' (the majority are still within the government and the team is still part of their duties), or that he didn't screech 'WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!', I am beyond dealing with people thinking the have the perfect response schedule for something that no nation was 100% prepared for, and that Trump is responsible for the economic issues resulting from the COVID, much less that what he did do, he was called racist for doing.

What a joke it has become. Argue facts, 'Counselor.' Not opinions, not emotions. Facts. If you can perceive them.
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Trump repeatedly lied about the threat of the virus, the country's preparedness for it, and what he had done about. He is not responsible for the virus, but he sure as hell is responsible for the botched federal response.

Wrong....

ALL of the doctors, the changing information, the bad numbers, the mass chaos and the ever changing parameters are responsible for the "results".....

There is absolutely nothing Biden or any other president could have done "better" dealing with the same circumstances....

To claim otherwise is nothing but a biased political lie....
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