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Fox News, tonight, showed some clips of Joe Biden, from earlier years--and his comments, as concerning the police:

"Put a cop on three of four corners and guess where the crime is going to be committed? On the fourth corner, where the cop isn't. More cops clearly means less crime." -- August 20, 2002

"Fewer police on the street, preventing crime and protecting community, means more crime. And it's as simple as that. It's not rocket science"-- May 23, 2007

Nowadays, he seems to be trying (rather clumsily, I think) to thread the proverbial needle: being in favor of law enforcement (well, sorta-kinda, anyway), but not wishing to say anything that might upset the Democratic Party's increasingly leftist base.

At one time, I thought that he might make a reasonable alternative to Donald Trump--who is much more coarse, crude, and brash than I would prefer.

But this is just another example of why I no longer consider that idea...
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Biden is screwed no matter which say he bumbles and stumbles. If he shows support or even doesn't embrace the Defund the Police movement, the left will eat him alive. If he does come out and support the far left, his past statements and the vast majority of the country (those NOT out in the streets making complete fools of themselves) will not take him seriously.
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Biden is screwed no matter which say he bumbles and stumbles. If he shows support or even doesn't embrace the Defund the Police movement, the left will eat him alive. If he does come out and support the far left, his past statements and the vast majority of the country (those NOT out in the streets making complete fools of themselves) will not take him seriously.
That's the point the media hardly touches upon...

The Dem Party has it's own civil war going on between the establishment and the AOC wing...
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Biden is screwed no matter which say he bumbles and stumbles. If he shows support or even doesn't embrace the Defund the Police movement, the left will eat him alive. If he does come out and support the far left, his past statements and the vast majority of the country (those NOT out in the streets making complete fools of themselves) will not take him seriously.
Do you take Donald seriously when does the same...…?

Constant lying and flip flopping on all sorts of issues.....

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Do you take Donald seriously when does the same...…?

Constant lying and flip flopping on all sorts of issues.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...92486883511579
Thread on Biden...

First response - Biden
Second response - Biden
Third response - TRUMP!!!!!

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Do you take Donald seriously when does the same...…?

Constant lying and flip flopping on all sorts of issues.....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...92486883511579
Trumps base is solid and will not waver. Biden's base is all over the place on the issue of Law Enforcement.

The rest of the voting public has to decide between the two. Being as the Dems have made Law Enforcement a hot topic, there are many left over voters that will view Trump as the Law Enforcement president while Biden flounders away in the basement getting beat up by half of his base no matter which way he flips on the subject.
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Fox News, tonight, showed some clips of Joe Biden, from earlier years--and his comments, as concerning the police:

"Put a cop on three of four corners and guess where the crime is going to be committed? On the fourth corner, where the cop isn't. More cops clearly means less crime." -- August 20, 2002

"Fewer police on the street, preventing crime and protecting community, means more crime. And it's as simple as that. It's not rocket science"-- May 23, 2007

Nowadays, he seems to be trying (rather clumsily, I think) to thread the proverbial needle: being in favor of law enforcement (well, sorta-kinda, anyway), but not wishing to say anything that might upset the Democratic Party's increasingly leftist base.

At one time, I thought that he might make a reasonable alternative to Donald Trump--who is much more coarse, crude, and brash than I would prefer.

But this is just another example of why I no longer consider that idea...
now we have a recording device in every hand therefore we now know what is really happening in the street. also we know more about domestic violence and aren't afraid to talk about the mental health of suspects and officers.
so do we use old methods or try to improve?
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That's the point the media hardly touches upon...

The Dem Party has it's own civil war going on between the establishment and the AOC wing...
would that that were true among the Reps
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Thread on Biden...

First response - Biden
Second response - Biden
Third response - TRUMP!!!!!

valid establishment of hypocrisy
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Thread on Biden...

First response - Biden
Second response - Biden
Third response - TRUMP!!!!!

Trying to find some perspective actually.....

Yes Joe flip flops, I'm not denying that fact....

My question was is the poutrage the same for the Donald....?

Simple concept...
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