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Old 03-24-2020, 11:11 AM
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"It is very important that we totally protect our Asian American community in the United States, and all around the world. They are amazing people, and the spreading of the Virus is NOT their fault in any way, shape, or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. WE WILL PREVAIL TOGETHER!" --Trump, bold mine

The word "Asian" is inclusive of all the people of Asia, no? How many refer to an Indian as "Asian"? How about a Russian? By the bolded, I take it he means Orientals in the United States as well as Orientals around the world, who are not to blame for the bad habits of scumbags and bottom feeders of any ethnicity.

Bottom line, every citizen in America is an American. People should choose some other forum to push their race card.
Not surprisingly, you're completely missing the point. When people refer to a particular racial or ethnic group of Americans as "them" or "they" to distinguish the group from the broader group of all Americans (referred to as "us"), it is pretty clear evidence of racial or ethnic bias.
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Old 03-24-2020, 11:23 AM
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:39 PM
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Not surprisingly, you're completely missing the point. When people refer to a particular racial or ethnic group of Americans as "them" or "they" to distinguish the group from the broader group of all Americans (referred to as "us"), it is pretty clear evidence of racial or ethnic bias.
While I completely disagree with you, please advise us how one refers to an at-risk group while speaking to a different group. Matter of fact, how to do you refer to any group other than the people you are speaking directly to?

It is not 'pretty clear evidence' of anything, Counselor. There was no negative connation in the identifier that was used.

What group is at-risk of racist retaliation? Chinese Americans.
Are all Americans Chinese-Americans? No.
What is the appropriate pronoun for people not of your immediate group? Them or they. Basic English grammar.
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Not surprisingly, you're completely missing the point. When people refer to a particular racial or ethnic group of Americans as "them" or "they" to distinguish the group from the broader group of all Americans (referred to as "us"), it is pretty clear evidence of racial or ethnic bias.
What do you refer to people who have curly hair, or straight hair, short or tall, underweight or overweight? High income or low income?
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Not surprisingly, you're completely missing the point. When people refer to a particular racial or ethnic group of Americans as "them" or "they" to distinguish the group from the broader group of all Americans (referred to as "us"), it is pretty clear evidence of racial or ethnic bias.
You're not reading correctly. Trump knows racists will pick on certain ethnic groups no matter if they are American (what does an American look like?) or otherwise. It looks like Trump included the Oriental Asian part of America along with the Oriental Asians around the world. I don't think it had any effect on racist types, though. They will still point him out as racist. End of rebuttal. Fire back aimlessly if you wish.
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Not surprisingly, you're completely missing the point. When people refer to a particular racial or ethnic group of Americans as "them" or "they" to distinguish the group from the broader group of all Americans (referred to as "us"), it is pretty clear evidence of racial or ethnic bias.
This is the same mentality that thinks calling a Mexican "Mexican" is Racist. but calling an American "American" is not.
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Whatever you'd call it, I, a resident born and raised in Wuhan city, don't mind at all.

Chinese Virus, or Wuhan Virus, or Wuhan Coronavirus Epidemic, whatever, I really don't mind.

You'd better call it "Wuhan Coronavirus epidemic" which would remind us of our courage, sacrifice, foolish, tear that would engrave on our minds forever.

The cherry blossoms in Wuhan city are full blossoming. I expect your coming.




















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Whatever you'd call it, I, a resident born and raised in Wuhan city, don't mind at all.

Chinese Virus, or Wuhan Virus, or Wuhan Coronavirus Epidemic, whatever, I really don't mind.

You'd better call it "Wuhan Coronavirus epidemic" which would remind us of our courage, sacrifice, foolish, tear that would engrave on our minds forever.

The cherry blossoms in Wuhan city are full blossoming. I expect your coming.



















Thank you for you response. The one thing for people to realize is that most people in the United States do not fault the people of China for the virus and see the strides and sacrifices that the Chinese people have endured as courageous. It is the Chinese government that we feel has wronged not only the people of China, but the rest of the world by trying to cover up the virus and not working soon enough to contain it.

As for myself, I hope you and your family, friends and neighbors are all healthy and safe from the virus. And I am sure that most of the members of this forum and many people in the United States, all feel the same.
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How about, "Wuhan Flu" or Chi Com Virus? Those are accurate, aren't they?
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Thank you for you response. The one thing for people to realize is that most people in the United States do not fault the people of China for the virus and see the strides and sacrifices that the Chinese people have endured as courageous. It is the Chinese government that we feel has wronged not only the people of China, but the rest of the world by trying to cover up the virus and not working soon enough to contain it.

As for myself, I hope you and your family, friends and neighbors are all healthy and safe from the virus. And I am sure that most of the members of this forum and many people in the United States, all feel the same.
I second that and just would add half of us are ashamed that our President makes such a point to call it Chinese so that he can dog whistle to his racist supporters. Not all his supporters are racist but all American racists who are political vote for him.
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