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Old 08-20-2019, 06:27 AM
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The New York Times is outing itself as something other than a news organization. They have decided that simply reporting the news is not something they are good at. Now they are into political activism.

You can read the article here: https://theresurgent.com/2019/08/19/...-1619-project/

In the article, it talks about the 1619 project where the NYT decides they are going to rewrite history to fit their narrative and support their agenda of defeating Donald Trump. Here is an excerpt:

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We should circle back now to the transcript of the inmates at the New York Times and their meeting with the editors. Here is what Dean Baquet said:

The day Bob Mueller walked off that witness stand, two things happened. Our readers who want Donald Trump to go away suddenly thought, “Holy ****, Bob Mueller is not going to do it.” And Donald Trump got a little emboldened politically, I think. Because, you know, for obvious reasons. And I think that the story changed. A lot of the stuff we’re talking about started to emerge like six or seven weeks ago. We’re a little tiny bit flat-footed. I mean, that’s what happens when a story looks a certain way for two years. Right? I think that we’ve got to change. I mean, the vision for coverage for the next two years is what I talked about earlier: How do we cover a guy who makes these kinds of remarks? How do we cover the world’s reaction to him? How do we do that while continuing to cover his policies? How do we cover America, that’s become so divided by Donald Trump? How do we grapple with all the stuff you all are talking about? How do we write about race in a thoughtful way, something we haven’t done in a large way in a long time? That, to me, is the vision for coverage. You all are going to have to help us shape that vision. But I think that’s what we’re going to have to do for the rest of the next two years.
It seems to me that if an organization wants to enjoy the protections afforded the press in the 1st Amendment, they should conform to the standards of reporting the news instead of advocating for a political party. While the NYT has pretty much admitted that they are no long news, the other political based media should be held to the same standard.
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The NY Slimes essentially let the cat out of the bag... it's not really a secret that they have been distorting the facts concerning Donald Trump during his Presidency, but now they are essentially admitting it. In the spirit of transparency, the other news networks should follow suit and admit this as well.
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The problem for them becomes that if they admit what they truly are, they would loose 1st Amendment protects of the press. You and I could not get away with publishing false information that the MSM does and call ourselves the free press.

As a member of the press, they are granted certain privileges and access that you and I are not. With those privileges, comes certain responsibilities which they have decided to ignore, some of which are to be fair and honest in their reporting to hold our government accountable, not just one party.
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The New York Times is outing itself as something other than a news organization. They have decided that simply reporting the news is not something they are good at. Now they are into political activism.

You can read the article here: https://theresurgent.com/2019/08/19/...-1619-project/

In the article, it talks about the 1619 project where the NYT decides they are going to rewrite history to fit their narrative and support their agenda of defeating Donald Trump. Here is an excerpt:

It seems to me that if an organization wants to enjoy the protections afforded the press in the 1st Amendment, they should conform to the standards of reporting the news instead of advocating for a political party. While the NYT has pretty much admitted that they are no long news, the other political based media should be held to the same standard.
One thing that keeps being repeated, and I've yet to come up with a good summation of it, is the statement 'Donald Trump divides this country'. No, actually HE doesn't.

External groups that decided that they don't like Trump, for whatever reason, actively and aggressively verbally attacked him from day one as a presidential candidate. Not just dislike, but active animosity. While his personality grates (understatement) the accusations were flying before any proof existed, and for which, many were entirely and completely unfounded. Then to usurp Clinton in the election, and the dull roar of diversity was ramped to astounding levels.

Trumps says/tweets stupid stuff, and while I understand the probability of what he's doing is a chain tweak, it's those who are responding that are actually the ones causing the divide. Trump doesn't have the standard POTUS filters. He doesn't do 'vanilla', he says what he's thinking, and those on the PC spectrum can't handle that.

There are some who are completely unable to deal with the less-than PC. Personally, I think Trump pushes a bit too far and has a complete lack of tact. But that DOES NOT mean what he is saying is always wrong.

That all being said, virtually every news source, such as NYT, have been on the liberal train with little understanding of what true journalism is, and find themselves unable to cope with the reality that they cannot gain what isn't there. Now, they will have to find some other method to promote to underride Trump, or any conservative position, and that is an issue they don't want to acknowledge.

Sorry for the rant. Maybe.
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The New York Times is outing itself as something other than a news organization. They have decided that simply reporting the news is not something they are good at. Now they are into political activism.

You can read the article here: https://theresurgent.com/2019/08/19/...-1619-project/

In the article, it talks about the 1619 project where the NYT decides they are going to rewrite history to fit their narrative and support their agenda of defeating Donald Trump. Here is an excerpt:



It seems to me that if an organization wants to enjoy the protections afforded the press in the 1st Amendment, they should conform to the standards of reporting the news instead of advocating for a political party. While the NYT has pretty much admitted that they are no long news, the other political based media should be held to the same standard.
You think the same about Fox "News?"
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The problem for them becomes that if they admit what they truly are, they would loose 1st Amendment protects of the press. You and I could not get away with publishing false information that the MSM does and call ourselves the free press.

As a member of the press, they are granted certain privileges and access that you and I are not. With those privileges, comes certain responsibilities which they have decided to ignore, some of which are to be fair and honest in their reporting to hold our government accountable, not just one party.
Sadly, the NYT is no danger of losing press accreditation no matter how much Resistance swill they projectile vomit. Like so much of the media they have abandoned even the pretense of journalism in favor of Resistance and partisan Democrat advocacy.

The NYT is not alone in its dereliction of journalism, the WaPo once rightfully hailed for its investigative prowess, has become the vanity rag of the world's richest man robotically copying Resistance propaganda and studiously ignoring avenues of investigation that don't conform to their owner's politics. Democrats used to rail against corporate media ownership but now it's not worth mentioning as long as the media conforms to the will of the Resistance lynch mob.
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Sadly, the NYT is no danger of losing press accreditation no matter how much Resistance swill they projectile vomit. Like so much of the media they have abandoned even the pretense of journalism in favor of Resistance and partisan Democrat advocacy.

The NYT is not alone in its dereliction of journalism, the WaPo once rightfully hailed for its investigative prowess, has become the vanity rag of the world's richest man robotically copying Resistance propaganda and studiously ignoring avenues of investigation that don't conform to their owner's politics. Democrats used to rail against corporate media ownership but now it's not worth mentioning as long as the media conforms to the will of the Resistance lynch mob.
So what about Fox? Surely you guys don't still pretend to believe it is "Fair and balanced" do you?
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You think the same about Fox "News?"
Actually, to an extent, Yes. Fox is overly right leaning as MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, etc are hard core leftists. However, I will say that Fox's news shows are fairly balanced. However most of their programming is opinion shows.

The MSM doesn't seem to differentiate between news and opinion. They seem to let opinion dictate their news coverage.
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So what about Fox?
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So what about Fox? Surely you guys don't still pretend to believe it is "Fair and balanced" do you?
Fox has more lean then the Tower of Pisa. Point being? Does that change the NYT position to anything different then what it is?
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