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Old 03-25-2019, 07:15 PM
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no prosecutor ever exonerates people. they present evidence. the judge or jury decides justice.
trump's yes man isn't doing anything so it's up to the state of new york and maybe congress
Trumps "yes man" is US Attorney General Bill Barr and he is doing his job. His job is to examine the documentation from the Mueller investigation and determine if any of the facts presented, would lead a reasonable prosecutor to levy charges against those in question. The fact that he and Rod Rosenstein (hardly a Trump supporter) both decided that no charges were warranted at this time means that they found nothing in the report to support any other conclusion.

However, I'm sure they didn't take your personal feelings into account.
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no prosecutor ever exonerates people. they present evidence. the judge or jury decides justice.
trump's yes man isn't doing anything so it's up to the state of new york and maybe congress
How quickly you forget. Then FBI director Comey directed the investigation of the criminal conspiracy driven by Hillary Clinton perverted the process by announcing no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges based on a unique standard of intent.
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Trumps "yes man" is US Attorney General Bill Barr and he is doing his job. His job is to examine the documentation from the Mueller investigation and determine if any of the facts presented, would lead a reasonable prosecutor to levy charges against those in question. The fact that he and Rod Rosenstein (hardly a Trump supporter) both decided that no charges were warranted at this time means that they found nothing in the report to support any other conclusion.

However, I'm sure they didn't take your personal feelings into account.
As the article indicates, kinda quick.
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How quickly you forget. Then FBI director Comey directed the investigation of the criminal conspiracy driven by Hillary Clinton perverted the process by announcing no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges based on a unique standard of intent.
there was no crime in question there only not following guidelines. nothing akin to trump and poo ton rigging a fix which is a crime or the laundering and bank fraud trumps inner circle are going to prison for.
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there was no crime in question there only not following guidelines. nothing akin to trump and poo ton rigging a fix which is a crime or the laundering and bank fraud trumps inner circle are going to prison for.
Again you show a complete detachment from reality. Comey testified there was plenty of criminal activity directed by Hillary unearthed by the FBI investigation but no intent. Mueller concluded there was no underlying crime by Trump or his associates to conspire with the Russians to interfere with the 2016 election but despite a lack of intent Resistance zealots insist the President is guilty of obstruction. The huge double standard cannot be denied.
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Again you show a complete detachment from reality. Comey testified there was plenty of criminal activity directed by Hillary unearthed by the FBI investigation but no intent. Mueller concluded there was no underlying crime by Trump or his associates to conspire with the Russians to interfere with the 2016 election but despite a lack of intent Resistance zealots insist the President is guilty of obstruction. The huge double standard cannot be denied.
one. we don't know what mueller concluded if anything. he looks to have merely passed on evidence and findings to a judicial branch.
barr has not deliberatively but hastily -looks like-drawn conclusions.
two. one of barr's conclusions is that trump is not cleared of obstruction.
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one. we don't know what mueller concluded if anything. he looks to have merely passed on evidence and findings to a judicial branch.
barr has not deliberatively but hastily -looks like-drawn conclusions.
two. one of barr's conclusions is that trump is not cleared of obstruction.
Mueller's principal finding was no evidence of collusion between Trump or his close associates and the Russian government. It is not surprising the Resistance cannot accept the collapse of the Russian collusion narrative but instead seeks refuge in another conspiracy theory.

In typical lynch mob fashion the Resistance operates on the guilty until proven innocent principle in regard to allegations of Trump obstructing the investigation. After finding there was no collusion Mueller couldn't bear to admit his investigation had failed to bring down Trump so he punted the decision to the AG. The AG hand picked by the President just like every other AG before him but it's an offense against the rule of law don't ya know.
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Again you show a complete detachment from reality. Comey testified there was plenty of criminal activity directed by Hillary unearthed by the FBI investigation but no intent. Mueller concluded there was no underlying crime by Trump or his associates to conspire with the Russians to interfere with the 2016 election but despite a lack of intent Resistance zealots insist the President is guilty of obstruction. The huge double standard cannot be denied.
Comey, in order to let Hillary off the hook, created a new "no intent" law. Only lawmakers can create new laws. Special prosecutors just make shlt up.

This is by no means over. The left will reinvestigate and publish meaningless daily excuses until 2020, when they'll move on to excuses why they lost this one.
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one. we don't know what mueller concluded if anything. he looks to have merely passed on evidence and findings to a judicial branch.
barr has not deliberatively but hastily -looks like-drawn conclusions.
two. one of barr's conclusions is that trump is not cleared of obstruction.
We only know what we are told. Although some only know what they wish to believe.

Conclusion by Mueller was definite and clear...; There was no collusion by the Trump Campaign with the Russian government or Russian agents.
As to obstruction, there was no indictment. Prosecutors can indictor not indict. No evidence, no indictment.

In another post you seemed to agree
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no prosecutor ever exonerates people. they present evidence. the judge or jury decides justice.
trump's yes man isn't doing anything so it's up to the state of new york and maybe congress
No Indictment,, then no judge or jury required to make a definitive clearance or guilt verdict.


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As the article indicates, kinda quick.
You do realize that Mueller provided his own summary to his report don't you? What that means is that Barr and Rosenstein only had to read the summary to put out their letter.
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