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Old 01-08-2019, 12:08 PM
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I have no problem with the government shutdown, and neither does the author of this piece, since it proves how bloated the government has become and how unnecessary hundreds of thousands on the federal payroll are.

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Mr. President, keep it closed as long as you have to, and maybe even longer than that.

I don’t know about you, but I am enjoying the 25% Government shutdown. I really am. This is the closest we ever may come to demonstrating how much of our Government is wasteful, unnecessary, duplicative, and pointless. As but one example — only from the 25% now shut down — we simply do not need a federal Department of Education. States and municipalities can and should run education at the local level. Under conservatives, a federal Education Department — at best — does nothing that justifies its existence; under liberals, it works to destroy civil rights and the national culture. Consider how Obama took away the rights of students on campus wrongly accused of sexual assault. Suddenly, they lost their rights to demand certain evidence, to examine witnesses, to confront accusers. Now that we live in a Red Scare era — where the Left are the scare — extreme feminists wield an old tool that goes back to the Biblical account of the wife of Potiphar: If you are angry at someone, just falsely accuse him of attempting rape.

So it goes throughout so much of the Federal Government. We do need the military to protect us from threats overseas. We need an agency to collect tax, if tax we must pay. We need airport security on the ground (like TSA) and in the sky (like air traffic controllers). We need the post office. We need honest federal judges and courts and the staff that enable them to administer justice. But we do not need a great many of the agencies, departments, nor a great many of the 800,000 meanwhile-furloughed government workers. We have to pay their salaries; that money does not come from trees. We work hard for our families, earning what living we can. When we bring home our pay, we are not looking for business partners in Washington to share any percent of it in return for their drafting a new federal regulation or typing it or filing it or rewriting it. No one minds paying salaries of the fraction of federal workers who provide truly important services. However, for a large number of them, if they lose their government jobs and end up doing what my wife, my kids, my siblings, their spouses, my parents, my grandparents, my nieces, my nephews, my neighbors, my friends, my professional colleagues, and my enemies all have done — and work in the private sector — we all will be the better for it.

https://spectator.org/keep-it-closed-for-two-years/
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I still remember when the government "shut down" under Obama, and we saw scene after scene of barricades ("Obamacades") blocking access to national parks and federal tourist attractions...

Yeah...Not seeing much of that now...
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The whole "keep the government shutdown" riff is disconnected with the real world impact of the move...
In late 2017, analysts projected a government shutdown would cost the U.S. economy $6.5 billion per week. Standard & Poor's came up with the estimate in a report titled, "With a U.S. Government Shutdown, There Will Be Blood."

On top of the direct costs of stopping and restarting government programs, lost productivity and reimbursing furloughed federal workers, S&P noted the ripple effects would tear into private sector spending, earnings and job creation. The timing, about one week before the end of the fourth quarter, created another nightmare scenario. Investors would be rattled and the economy would not have enough time to bounce back before the end of the fourth quarter and the result was projected to be a 0.2 percent quarterly loss of GDP.
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/g...mp-border-wall
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I have no problem with the government shutdown, and neither does the author of this piece, since it proves how bloated the government has become and how unnecessary hundreds of thousands on the federal payroll are.
By saying keep the govt shut down for two years any author would reveal a sense of sarcasm or idiocy.
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The whole "keep the government shutdown" riff is disconnected with the real world impact of the move...
In late 2017, analysts projected a government shutdown would cost the U.S. economy $6.5 billion per week. Standard & Poor's came up with the estimate in a report titled, "With a U.S. Government Shutdown, There Will Be Blood."

On top of the direct costs of stopping and restarting government programs, lost productivity and reimbursing furloughed federal workers, S&P noted the ripple effects would tear into private sector spending, earnings and job creation. The timing, about one week before the end of the fourth quarter, created another nightmare scenario. Investors would be rattled and the economy would not have enough time to bounce back before the end of the fourth quarter and the result was projected to be a 0.2 percent quarterly loss of GDP.
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/g...mp-border-wall
Well then, Democrats agreeing to drop their absurd partisan posturing by approving the $5.7 billion for the wall. Combined with the $6 billion from reopening the government it's a double bonus for the economy.
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Well then, Democrats agreeing to drop their absurd partisan posturing by approving the $5.7 billion for the wall. Combined with the $6 billion from reopening the government it's a double bonus for the economy.
The taxpayers do not want a wall. It's the Repubs who should drop their absurd partisan posturing. It's lunacy for Trump to both proclaim that he will gladly take credit for shutting down the government until he gets his border wall, and then to later try to claim it's the Democrats who have shut down the government.
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The taxpayers do not want a wall.
The taxpayers did not want ObamaCare, either...

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I still remember when the government "shut down" under Obama, and we saw scene after scene of barricades ("Obamacades") blocking access to national parks and federal tourist attractions...

Yeah...Not seeing much of that now...
I remember under Obama the media was calling it a government shutdown and trying to make it seem all doom and gloom. Now the media is calling it just a partial government shutdown as to somehow diminish the severity of it.
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The taxpayers do not want a wall.
I'm a taxpayer who would rather see an end to birthright citizenship, chain migration and ALL services to illegal immigrants. However, since that's not happening, the wall is my second choice. In spite of the claim that taxpayers do not want a wall, many people DO support the president and the idea of a wall, especially with more caravans forming to storm our southern border.

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It's the Repubs who should drop their absurd partisan posturing. It's lunacy for Trump to both proclaim that he will gladly take credit for shutting down the government until he gets his border wall, and then to later try to claim it's the Democrats who have shut down the government.
The Democrats support spending more in foreign aid than the amount of money requested for the wall, proving that they don't care about the American people. It makes no sense to blame the shutdown on Trump when the Democrat agenda is to defy Trump in all things, even with the wall that they claimed to support in the past. They are anti-American, Trump-hating hypocrites.
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I'm a taxpayer who would rather see an end to birthright citizenship, chain migration and ALL services to illegal immigrants. However, since that's not happening, the wall is my second choice. In spite of the claim that taxpayers do not want a wall, many people DO support the president and the idea of a wall, especially with more caravans forming to storm our southern border.



The Democrats support spending more in foreign aid than the amount of money requested for the wall, proving that they don't care about the American people. It makes no sense to blame the shutdown on Trump when the Democrat agenda is to defy Trump in all things, even with the wall that they claimed to support in the past. They are anti-American, Trump-hating hypocrites.
it makes perfect sense because wall money is not needed. we already have fencing and walls that need to be repaired and built. the last wall money wasn't spent on a wall. what happened to that money?
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