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Old 12-20-2018, 05:07 PM
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Default Apparently Jim Mattis wasn't on board with Trump's Syria withdrawal after all

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Trump's rash and idiotic proclamation that U.S. forces will leave Syria in the hands of the autocratic Bashar Assad, Vladimir Putin, and the Islamists ruling Iran was apparently a bridge too far for Mad Dog Mattis.

...And writing like that is why the bungholes are shutting the paper down. this is already a dick-tater ship.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:14 PM
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Yeah...

...and Joe Biden was against the Osama Bin Laden raid...and he's the frontrunner for the Dems to be president...

....but that's "different"...
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Yeah...

...and Joe Biden was against the Osama Bin Laden raid...and he's the frontrunner for the Dems to be president...

....but that's "different"...
apples and oranges.
advise on bin laden as a target was sought from several advisers
trump's whole outlook is different than mattis'
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Default Re: Apparently Jim Mattis wasn't on board with Trump's Syria withdrawal after all

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Mattis, always a professional, didn't publicly state that he loathed Trump's decision, but he didn't have to. A resignation speaks a thousand words.
Mattis loathes Trump's decision! He didn't say that, but we know he does!

Sooooooooo this partisan opinion piece by the Washington Examiner makes a claim and then debunks their own claim later on in the article.

Salty, ya gotta do better than this if ya wanna be taken seriously. We know your bias against Trump is extreme (TDS) but this is weak even for you.
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Trump just fired Mattis.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/breaki...ense-secretary
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Mattis loathes Trump's decision! He didn't say that, but we know he does!

Sooooooooo this partisan opinion piece by the Washington Examiner makes a claim and then debunks their own claim later on in the article.

Salty, ya gotta do better than this if ya wanna be taken seriously. We know your bias against Trump is extreme (TDS) but this is weak even for you.
yes if you have real life comprehension, usually called 'common sense', you see that mattis was fairly upset there was no warning to the pentagon or heads up to allies. allies in the field at our behest.
please go work on your other boards. I kinda like the people on this forum and don't like seeing them used by whatever you are and whomever you are employed by.
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please go work on your other boards. I kinda like the people on this forum and don't like seeing them used by whatever you are and whomever you are employed by.
Tell ya what. Toss up a poll thread askin' if the members of this forum want me to leave or stay. I'll do whatever the majority wishes.

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...And writing like that is why the bungholes are shutting the paper down. this is already a dick-tater ship.
Hey Salt,
I'm not sure why you keep missing the fact that Trump's action is not a "shocking" surprise.

CNN: Wed APRIL 4, 2018
Trump will keep troops in Syria for short-term, but wants exit soon
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump has told his national security team that he is willing to keep American forces in Syria in the short-term, but made it known he wants US troops to exit soon in a meeting on Tuesday, a senior administration official told CNN.
Trump has said publicly that he's ready to withdraw troops from Syria, but his top military commanders have argued the battle against ISIS is not yet complete.
"The military mission to eradicate ISIS in Syria is coming to a rapid end, with ISIS being almost completely destroyed," a statement from White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said on Wednesday. "The United States and our partners remain committed to eliminating the small ISIS presence in Syria that our forces have not already eradicated. "We will continue to consult with our allies and friends regarding future plans," the statement said. "We expect countries in the region and beyond, plus the United Nations, to work toward peace and ensure that ISIS never re-emerges."
Trump said during the session on Tuesday that he wants to defeat ISIS but that the costs of stabilizing Syria must be borne by regional players.
CNN reported earlier that Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats said in a breakfast with reporters that a decision was made Tuesday at the White House over whether to withdraw from Syria.
In the meeting with his national security team, Trump maintained his position that US troops should soon leave Syria, and told the assembled advisers that he was firm in his commitment to withdrawing American forces, according to the senior administration official.
At the same time, he acknowledged that US troops would need to remain in the country as plans for withdrawal are made and as the battle against ISIS continues.
He told the military leaders present to begin making plans for withdrawal, though he didn't advise them on how long that planning should take.
The advisers told Trump that ISIS isn't fully defeated in Syria, and he acknowledged that US troops would need to remain in the country for at least some time longer.
But he wasn't deterred from his position that US troops must leave soon.
Trump surprised military leaders last week when he said the US would "be coming out of Syria like very soon," just hours after the Pentagon highlighted the need for US troops to remain in the country for the immediate future.
Senior administration officials have been discussing for some time the way ahead in Syria and what conditions would need to be met to permit a US withdrawal, a US defense official directly familiar with the ISIS campaign told CNN last week, but added that while Trump could decide at any time to pull out, military commanders were not recommending that course of action at this time.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/polit...dministration/
Yes, the military leaders and advisors did not agree with him. then or now. They NEVER seem to think the job is done.
but he made it clear it would happen and happen "soon".
He told everyone In APRIL.

and this is a weird comparison to make but JFKs advisors wanted JFK to be far more aggressive with Cuba and Russia. But surprise surprise. he's the president and has control of the Arm forces ... AFTER forces are legally engaged.
You call Trump a dictator here, why? It's in his constitutional authority to command the armed forces. AFTER congress has authorized actions.
Is the president legally obligated to take the advise of "the generals" and advisors or something Salt? Are the Advisors always right. Is continued war ALWAYS the right decision?
When would you Advise we should to leave Syria.. 5 years? 10 years? Never?
It's fine to say you don't agree with the way he did it.
It's fine for Mattis not to agree with it... and quit... if he feels like American troops should be killed and maimed in Syria for 10+ years or that we should invade Syria and overthrow Assad, or be in proxy/full on war with Russia.
Maybe Mattis should run for president on those ideas and you'll vote for him.
But personally I'm VERY glad that Trump is getting us the H-Out of there.
Saving troops lives and pain, Saving U.S. dollars from going down a rat hole, and stopping the pretense of being able to control the world.
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...And writing like that is why the bungholes are shutting the paper down. this is already a dick-tater ship.
Why do liberals insist that the USA maintain constant war in the middle east?

Barack Obama is the only 2 term president in the history of the USA that kept the country at war for his entire 8 year presidency. THE ONLY ONE. Ironically, he received a Nobel Peace Prize.
President Trump removes troops from a middle east war and Saltwn is upset about it.
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yes if you have real life comprehension, usually called 'common sense', you see that mattis was fairly upset there was no warning to the pentagon or heads up to allies. allies in the field at our behest.
please go work on your other boards. I kinda like the people on this forum and don't like seeing them used by whatever you are and whomever you are employed by.
Salt, Hairy is welcome here. So are you. However, given your posts over the last 18 months, I have to wonder who is paying you to spout such garbage.
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