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Old 10-22-2018, 10:40 AM
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California is so filled with anti-American, constitution-hating, communist-loving people that it should be its own separate country, so I enjoyed L. Neil Smith's article about this.

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I once thought that the craziest year America had ever endured was 1968: the War in Vietnam, the Presidential election, riots in Chicago, inner cities in flames all over the US and Europe, seizure of the USS Pueblo by North Korea, the Tet offensive, the My Lai Massacre, the 1968 Gun Control Act, the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy, the first teachers’ strike in US history, and enough other lunatic and destructive events to add another verse to the Billy Joel song. Most of these were Democrat enterprises, but they turned out to be only a tiny sip of the deep, rich, soup of insanity in which we’re all steeping half a century later in 2018.

The capital of all this collectivist craziness is the sorry state of California, which has tossed aside the US Constitution for the whims of its mentally-impaired governor (not the first, by any means, nor, apparently, the last) and his motley minions and mobs. California is the state, after all, that inflicted Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, and Maxine Waters on the rest of us, not to overlook Jack Dorsey, Sheryl Sandberg, Mark Zuckerberg, Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin, and the Wojcicki sisters. (Who? Look them up—but beware, Wikipedia is owned, every page, by the bad guys.) California’s city streets are covered in human excrement, and there is a typhus epidemic brewing out there, somewhere.

Now, some Californians bleat that they want to secede from a United States that threatens to make them straighten up and fly right. Superficially, that might be a workable idea: on paper, California has one of the largest, most powerful economies in the world—bigger than that of many independent nations. It has a long, wonderful coastline and a couple of really good natural ports. Its agricultural sector is second to none. There is oil and gas within easy reach. It has no real military defenses, but I’m sure they’d be more than willing to leech off America’s defenses, our Navy, our Air Force, and our nuclear umbrella, like the deadbeat pajama boys they resemble, living in their mothers’ basements.

But wait. On the reasonable assumption that the California secession movement is limited to people in the counties that voted for Hillary Clinton, and that people in the counties who voted for Donald Trump do not want to secede, I consulted a California county-by-county election map for 2016. Blue counties dominate all but a tiny spot on the northern coast, which is too bad; most of the interior—the most productive part of the state—is bright red.

So here’s my brilliant idea. Instead of fighting another bloody, stupid, senseless War of Secession like the one we had in 1865, let’s grandly and magnanimously permit the state of California to secede—even insist on it—one county at a time. Those counties that vote to secede may do so and create the People’s Republic of Californistan, or whatever.

In exchange for defending this dog’s breakfast of a polity, we will keep all of our military bases and installations, somewhat like Guantanamo Bay Naval Air Station in Cuba. I believe the legal term is "adverse possession". Those counties that do not vote to secede—we wouldn’t want them to become like the captive peoples and nations of Europe during the Cold War—may remain in the Union, joining the adjacent state (mostly Nevada) or forming their own. To paraphrase the Borg, “We will add their productiveness to our own.”

However the trouble (for California, anyway), if you look at the map, is that county-by-county secession leaves the people’s Republic without visible means of support, a vagrant state, as it were, full of pencil-neck politicos and other worthless parasites, guilty of loitering on our Left Coast. They’re already bankrupt, after decades of Leninist-Stalinist policies. Now they will never recover with their productive counties gone—and we get their avocados!
You can read more here: Calizuela Here We Come!, by L. Neil Smith
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I love it. Let the hippies and illegals have San Francisco, LA, etc. and don't burden the rest of the state with such nonsense. Then I would build the wall to keep those people out of the rest of this country and let them figure out how to support themselves.
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It was its own country till Spain or Mexico "gave" it to America in a treaty after the war. California had won its independence from those countries generations before but we grabbed it anyway.
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It was its own country till Spain or Mexico "gave" it to America in a treaty after the war. California had won its independence from those countries generations before but we grabbed it anyway.
Thanks for the history lesson. However, that is not what the thread was about. Do you care to comment on the actual topic?
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It was its own country till Spain or Mexico "gave" it to America in a treaty after the war. California had won its independence from those countries generations before but we grabbed it anyway.
That's factually incorrect. California was never an independent country post Spanish exploration. It was a Spanish colony until Mexico won its independence from Spain by military conflict. Then it became a US territory after the Mexican American war. Two years later Californians successfully petitioned the US Congress for statehood. Texas was an independent country for roughly 7 years after revolting against dictatorial Mexican rule but California never was.

Naturally you'd like to avoid discussing California's decline under hegemonic Democrat rule but made up history isn't going to work as a distraction. Thanks to the radical Left Democrats California has more poor people than any other state in the union. It is suffering from an exodus of businesses to other states and abroad thanks to onerous regulations and taxes. It's the same vision that animated Obama's fundamental transformation of America and that drives the Progressives ascendant within the Democrat party as well as socialists like Bernie. Just like the socialists of Venezuela, Cuba and elsewhere Californians Democrats are loath to examine the outcome of their policies, wanton degradation of the Golden State into a third world like country.
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It was its own country till Spain or Mexico "gave" it to America in a treaty after the war. California had won its independence from those countries generations before but we grabbed it anyway.
If California wants to be its own country, I'm sure it can be arranged.

But on the condition they don't get foreign aid.
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