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This is an interesting idea, and one I'd like to see. Everyone who wants to fly in the US is treated as a criminal, and this needs to stop. Airline passengers now must stand with their hands over their head for screening machine nudie photos or be groped by TSA agents. The TSA hasn't stopped a single terrorist and should be eliminated, but until then, their powers to assault travelers needs to be reined in.

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Do members of Congress care about any sexual assault that does not permit them to politically grandstand? Hold TSA agents responsible for assaults.

In the uproar over Christine Blasey Ford’s allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, many members of Congress declared that women have a “right to be believed.” Unfortunately, Congress is ignoring legions of women who have been sexually abused thanks to the immunity Congress provides to federal agents. But a federal appeals court may grant relief despite Washington’s negligence.

Congress gives the Transportation Security Administration almost $8 billion a year and does nothing to constrain how TSA’s 43,000 screeners treat American travelers. A Justice Department lawyer insisted last year that there’s no law “establishing a specific degree of permissible intrusiveness of a (TSA) security screening pat-down.” Americans have no legal recourse regardless of how TSA’s screeners treat them, thus explaining why TSA pat-downs become more intrusive.

Many women have shared vivid allegations of TSA abuses on Twitter:

►Dr. Jenn complained on Sept. 8: “Is it common practice for TSA agents to forcefully slide their hand up my (15-year-old) daughter’s inner leg and ending at her vagina? Literally slamming their hand into my daughter’s vagina.”

►Melissa Emmal, whose Twitter header page shows a banner calling for impeaching Trump, tweeted on Aug. 28: “A @tsa agent at DCA told me the scanner had ‘alarmed’ at my groin. She then searched me from my knee up ‘until she met resistance’ (her words). She met resistance when she made contact with my labia FOUR times (front and back pat up of each leg). Felt like a sexual assault.”

►Emily White complained on Aug. 26: “I was sexually assaulted by the @TSA on August 1 @LGAairport’s Marine Terminal at around 11:50 am. … If you don’t want your vagina paddled multiple times, I recommend avoiding that crew.”

It gets worse. The ACLU recently filed a complaint charging that TSA agents took Zainab Merchant, a Harvard grad student and mother of three, to a private room and compelled her to “open her pants” and show her bloody menstrual pad after an enhanced pat-down.

Congress has never held a hearing featuring a panel of TSA victims whose complaints against the agency are documented, captured on video, and at least momentarily legendary on social media. Nor has Congress ever required the TSA chief to attend a hearing and specifically respond to individuals his agency pointlessly traumatized.

A federal appeals court recently declared that it falls “squarely in the realm” of Congress to amend federal law to curtail the blanket immunity that TSA agents enjoy. After initially effectively siding with TSA agents, the appeals court based in Philadelphia this month agreed to rehear a TSA’s victim’s challenge that could radically reduce the amount of power that TSA screeners enjoy.

Do members of Congress care about any sexual assault that does not permit them to politically grandstand? Capitol Hill’s selective indignation is not worth a plug nickel as long as politicians fail to rein in federal agents. As CNN political commentator Angela Rye wrote after her grueling experience with airport security, “Dear TSA: The country is not safer because you grab vaginas.”
There are more examples of the TSA assaulting women in the screening process at the link: USA TODAY: TSA Must End Sexual Abuse of Female Travelers - James Bovard
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In a better world, those perverts would be receiving royal ass kickings every time they groped liike they owned the women. There is no way in Hell any monkey will convince me that their inspections are for the safety of the airplane and its passengers. I see it as a way to dumb down people and make them more bendable to the will of "the authorities".

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The TSA is nothing but a dog and pony show. They are there to give the public the illusion that they are preventing terrorists from boarding planes. However, most of them are not competent enough to do the tasks assigned to them.

I used to travel weekly, going through multiple airports. I have a all in one tool (letherman like tool, pliers, screwdrivers, knives all in one tool). I had stuck in my laptop bag when my wife and I drove to a reunion and I took my laptop with me. After that trip, I could no longer find it and figured it was lost.

About 6 months later, after numerous trips via airlines, a TSA screener in Cleveland asked me if I had one of those tools. I stated I had, but thought I had lost it. He dug through my bag and found it. This was after probably 20 times that bag had gone through airport security.

That incident woke me up to how terrible this system is.

Two weeks after 9/11/2001, I met up with a contractor in Illinois that I was going to spend a couple of weeks working with. He was a former Army Ranger. One day after we left work and were heading to grab a bite to eat, he stated that he never travels without his side arm. As he had flown into Chicago ORD (O'Hare), I said something to effect, "except this time". He then reached under the seat of his rental car and pulled out a 9mm handgun. He told me he took it on the plane with him. He said you can get away with it, if you know how.

Now he could have gone through proper procedures and had it stowed in his checked luggage, but knowing the guy like I had since got to know him, I don't doubt that he did take it on the plane with him.
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This is an interesting idea, and one I'd like to see. Everyone who wants to fly in the US is treated as a criminal, and this needs to stop. Airline passengers now must stand with their hands over their head for screening machine nudie photos or be groped by TSA agents. The TSA hasn't stopped a single terrorist and should be eliminated, but until then, their powers yto assault travelers needs to be reined in.

There are more examples of the TSA assaulting women in the screening process at the link: USA TODAY: TSA Must End Sexual Abuse of Female Travelers - James Bovard
While employees of the TSA may commit sexual assault and improper searches that doesn't imply that the TSA doesn't establish policies and procedures to prevent these actions by employees. A "law" isn't required because regulations, policies, and procedures are responsible for ensuring that employees of the TSA don't violate the rights of the passengers.

The regulations, policies, and procedures are not fool proof and are often not followed which is why the assaults continue and it's the assaults that are the basis for lawsuits that change the regulations, policies, and procedures.
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While employees of the TSA may commit sexual assault and improper searches that doesn't imply that the TSA doesn't establish policies and procedures to prevent these actions by employees. A "law" isn't required because regulations, policies, and procedures are responsible for ensuring that employees of the TSA don't violate the rights of the passengers.

The regulations, policies, and procedures are not fool proof and are often not followed which is why the assaults continue and it's the assaults that are the basis for lawsuits that change the regulations, policies, and procedures.
To paraphrase something on a poster not too long ago--

"Support the TSA. Piss on your freedom."

Progressive libertarianism, my ass.
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This is an interesting idea, and one I'd like to see. Everyone who wants to fly in the US is treated as a criminal, and this needs to stop. Airline passengers now must stand with their hands over their head for screening machine nudie photos or be groped by TSA agents. The TSA hasn't stopped a single terrorist and should be eliminated, but until then, their powers to assault travelers needs to be reined in.



There are more examples of the TSA assaulting women in the screening process at the link: USA TODAY: TSA Must End Sexual Abuse of Female Travelers - James Bovard
Good idea. And no congress does not care about ant sexual assault unless it moves their politics forward. neither do they care about the accused.
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There is no way in Hell any monkey will convince me that their inspections are for the safety of the airplane and its passengers. I see it as a way to dumb down people and make them more bendable to the will of "the authorities".
Exactly. This is part of the agenda to turn citizens into unthinking cattle, willing to obey authority, no matter how unjust that authority is.
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Exactly. This is part of the agenda to turn citizens into unthinking cattle, willing to obey authority, no matter how unjust that authority is.
I got news for ya that already started with big chain stores. including gas stations. They want you pliant as well as compliant.
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I got news for ya that already started with big chain stores. including gas stations. They want you pliant as well as compliant.
Really? What do chain stores force us to do?
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While employees of the TSA may commit sexual assault and improper searches that doesn't imply that the TSA doesn't establish policies and procedures to prevent these actions by employees. A "law" isn't required because regulations, policies, and procedures are responsible for ensuring that employees of the TSA don't violate the rights of the passengers.

The regulations, policies, and procedures are not fool proof and are often not followed which is why the assaults continue and it's the assaults that are the basis for lawsuits that change the regulations, policies, and procedures.
Funny you should look at it like that. So what you are saying is that a law or regulation does not prevent someone from breaking said law or regulation?

Kind of sounds like other laws, such as a law against murder. But if we make guns illegal, people will not use one to commit a murder. Or if we make a "gun free zone" people will not bring guns and nobody will get shot. Do you now understand how stupid those things are?
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