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Over the weekend I enjoyed a get-together with a group of fishermen from Philadelphia. I used to live in the city and fished the Delaware and Schuylkill Rivers with these guys for years.

This is a diverse group of mostly men and of course some discussion turned to politics, especially the recent Kavanagh confirmation. The Black guys (11 of the 19 guys that were there) expressed a sentiment I have not heard expressed anywhere but it is understandable.

Their feeling of abandonment by Democrats is really deepening. Of course the Obama years were a disappointment and the Democrats focus on Hispanics -- to the detriment of Black folks, hurt a lot.

Since Trump has been elected, 5 of the guys have either become employed full-time or significantly moved up in their career, supervising new hires and/or expanded operations. The general economic feeling in their community is of optimism.

That's not what this threads about though. I would like to focus on a point one of them stated and the others all endorsed. The Democrats response and tactics in this SCOTUS situation have them actually frightened.

This Democrat demand to always "believe the victims" without reservation or demand for substantiation, doesn't sit well with them. This mantra of holding up (mostly) White Women as unquestionable when claiming to be victims of physical assault or sexual abuse, brings up some very uncomfortable history for Black Men of being accused or otherwise named as a White Woman's assaulter. They truly fear a return to the times of accepting uncorroborated claims as "the truth". . .

The Democrats schizophrenic focus on "White Women" as both the blame for Trump's election while being held up as this reliable decider of the '18 midterms in favor of the Democrats is inexplicable and unsettling. None of these guys could state any ideas coming from national Democrat politicians, that speak to them or their concerns.

I found their feelings interesting and not easily addressed or dismissed, anybody have any comments?
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It is interesting that upon further examination, the Democratic party has indeed appeared to have abandoned the African-American community in favor of illegal immigration. I hadn't thought of it in that way, but it does seem to be the case.

My guess is that due to the past decades of the African-American vote going primarily to the Democrats, they have taken it for granted and have focused on attracting a new constituency over retaining the current voting bloc. Meanwhile, the AA community is seeing that a robust economy is actually a more attractive option to them and their families.

As is evident, the Democratic party has no agenda other than to obstruct and oppose anything Trump. The only policy item's that I have seen is to rollback the tax cuts and work to strengthen Obamacare. Neither of these policies will do anything to help the economy.
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I think your friends have hit on a very valid point.
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I found their feelings interesting and not easily addressed or dismissed, anybody have any comments?
Only thing I can say is that I never believed Ford was sincere in her being "sexually accosted", or whatever she claimed.
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Only thing I can say is that I never believed Ford was sincere in her being "sexually accosted", or whatever she claimed.
I have my doubts whether Ford even wrote the letter, or that DiFi actually had it in her possession for weeks before accidentally releasing it.

The whole thing seems too contrived for me.

Whatever, the Democrats, or at least the head Democrat, took a wild shot and it not only missed, but it backfired.

I don't think they are going to get that impeachment majority they thought they would.
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Not only do the Democrat neatly put non-white men into their little boxes, but those boxes have a hierarchy within the party itself...

1) Women
2) Muslims
3) Gays
4) Hispanics
5) Blacks

This is in the reverse order of "Taken for granted"...

From a public viewpoint, the absolute worst thing for Democrats is when these groups come in conflict with each other...They either have to make a stand and choose a group (which is rarely done), or simply make up another enemy...

I'm reminded of the Prop 8 in California banning gay marriage...The black community supported it and pushed it over the finish line...

Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban

So who did the Dems blame the loss on?...MORMONS!...

Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage


Of the +$83M spent on Prop 8 ($43.3M for the ban; $39.9M against the ban), the Morman Church gave $190,000....Less than 1/2 of 1%...

...but they were the SAFE target, and attacking the TRUE supporters (The black community) would've been a Democrat civil war...
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Not only do the Democrat neatly put non-white men into their little boxes, but those boxes have a hierarchy within the party itself...

1) Women
2) Muslims
3) Gays
4) Hispanics
5) Blacks

This is in the reverse order of "Taken for granted"...

From a public viewpoint, the absolute worst thing for Democrats is when these groups come in conflict with each other...They either have to make a stand and choose a group (which is rarely done), or simply make up another enemy...

I'm reminded of the Prop 8 in California banning gay marriage...The black community supported it and pushed it over the finish line...

Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban

So who did the Dems blame the loss on?...MORMONS!...

Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage


Of the +$83M spent on Prop 8 ($43.3M for the ban; $39.9M against the ban), the Morman Church gave $190,000....Less than 1/2 of 1%...

...but they were the SAFE target, and attacking the TRUE supporters (The black community) would've been a Democrat civil war...
I think it was Lumara who had the spot on signature line for this... something about if a Gay black man kills a Muslim with a gun, who do you blame? I'm sure she post it up, it was priceless.
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Not only do the Democrat neatly put non-white men into their little boxes, but those boxes have a hierarchy within the party itself...

1) Women
2) Muslims
3) Gays
4) Hispanics
5) Blacks

This is in the reverse order of "Taken for granted"...

From a public viewpoint, the absolute worst thing for Democrats is when these groups come in conflict with each other...They either have to make a stand and choose a group (which is rarely done), or simply make up another enemy...

I'm reminded of the Prop 8 in California banning gay marriage...The black community supported it and pushed it over the finish line...

Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban

So who did the Dems blame the loss on?...MORMONS!...

Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage


Of the +$83M spent on Prop 8 ($43.3M for the ban; $39.9M against the ban), the Morman Church gave $190,000....Less than 1/2 of 1%...

...but they were the SAFE target, and attacking the TRUE supporters (The black community) would've been a Democrat civil war...
The transgender fits somewhere in that hierarchy and it seems to be closer to the top of your list. Or maybe Gays should be substituted with LGBTQALPHABETSOUP.
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Not only do the Democrat neatly put non-white men into their little boxes, but those boxes have a hierarchy within the party itself...

1) Women
2) Muslims
3) Gays
4) Hispanics
5) Blacks

This is in the reverse order of "Taken for granted"...

From a public viewpoint, the absolute worst thing for Democrats is when these groups come in conflict with each other...They either have to make a stand and choose a group (which is rarely done), or simply make up another enemy...

I'm reminded of the Prop 8 in California banning gay marriage...The black community supported it and pushed it over the finish line...

Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban

So who did the Dems blame the loss on?...MORMONS!...

Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage


Of the +$83M spent on Prop 8 ($43.3M for the ban; $39.9M against the ban), the Morman Church gave $190,000....Less than 1/2 of 1%...

...but they were the SAFE target, and attacking the TRUE supporters (The black community) would've been a Democrat civil war...
I also read that the Hispanic community was against gay marriage in California. Must have been the Latino Mormons.
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Over the weekend I enjoyed a get-together with a group of fishermen from Philadelphia. I used to live in the city and fished the Delaware and Schuylkill Rivers with these guys for years.

This is a diverse group of mostly men and of course some discussion turned to politics, especially the recent Kavanagh confirmation. The Black guys (11 of the 19 guys that were there) expressed a sentiment I have not heard expressed anywhere but it is understandable.

Their feeling of abandonment by Democrats is really deepening. Of course the Obama years were a disappointment and the Democrats focus on Hispanics -- to the detriment of Black folks, hurt a lot.

Since Trump has been elected, 5 of the guys have either become employed full-time or significantly moved up in their career, supervising new hires and/or expanded operations. The general economic feeling in their community is of optimism.

That's not what this threads about though. I would like to focus on a point one of them stated and the others all endorsed. The Democrats response and tactics in this SCOTUS situation have them actually frightened.

This Democrat demand to always "believe the victims" without reservation or demand for substantiation, doesn't sit well with them. This mantra of holding up (mostly) White Women as unquestionable when claiming to be victims of physical assault or sexual abuse, brings up some very uncomfortable history for Black Men of being accused or otherwise named as a White Woman's assaulter. They truly fear a return to the times of accepting uncorroborated claims as "the truth". . .

The Democrats schizophrenic focus on "White Women" as both the blame for Trump's election while being held up as this reliable decider of the '18 midterms in favor of the Democrats is inexplicable and unsettling. None of these guys could state any ideas coming from national Democrat politicians, that speak to them or their concerns.

I found their feelings interesting and not easily addressed or dismissed, anybody have any comments?
but they were all men...right?
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