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Old 10-04-2018, 12:34 PM
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Thanks to the Democrats, the hearing process has devolved into a hateful display filled with animosity, screaming, and foul play, so I believe eliminating the hearings is the only way to avoid this unethical behavior and destruction of someone's character in the future.

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I think it’s time to seriously consider getting rid of these hearings for Supreme Court nominees. The Constitution doesn’t require a hearing. All it says is that the Senate must give advise and consent.

You can do that with a simple up-or-down vote. And let’s be real: Do we really think one senator’s vote is going to be changed after these four days of hearings?

Here are three examples of why I think these hearings have become useless.

No. 1: Senators are asking both unanswerable and, frankly, nongermane questions.

Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., wants to know what Judge Brett Kavanaugh thinks about guns and the Second Amendment. He’s not going to answer that. Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., wants to talk about abortion, and how he would rule on abortion cases. He’s not going to answer that. And Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, wants to know what he’s learned from being his daughter’s basketball coach. It’s a nice question, but is it really germane?

No. 2: These hearings have become nothing but political grandstanding for political bases.

On Day One, you’ve got the outrage playoffs between Kamala Harris and Cory Booker, seeing who can interrupt the most. One Day Two, you have Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., going to the Senate floor using a rule no one ever uses to shut down the hearing. What happened? Sen. Mitch McConnell simply shut down the entire Senate, letting the hearing go on. Which means the hearing continued, but the rest of the Senate did nothing.

On Day Three, even though we already have 500,000 documents related to Kavanaugh’s past record, more than the five past nominees combined, Democrats in the Senate want even more records. Do we really think they’re going to read them?

And No. 3: These hearings have become a circus, a theater, a fiasco, whatever you want to call it.

On Day One alone, 70 protesters were removed from the hearing room. On Day Two, on average, a protester was removed every single minute.

It’s time to put an end to this whole political charade. It is full of sound and fury, but is accomplishing nothing. And it’s wasting both the Senate’s time and our taxpayer dollars. https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/09/...tion-hearings/
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Thanks to the Democrats, the hearing process has devolved into a hateful display filled with animosity, screaming, and foul play, so I believe eliminating the hearings is the only way to avoid this unethical behavior and destruction of someone's character in the future.
The idea makes sense. Congress can somehow decide on more funding for the yellow breasted nut cracker without a public spectacle, but not for the important decisions.

We are a representative republic, not a democracy. We send you to DC to make these decisions. If an issue needs discussing, discuss it among yourselves, then vote.
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I disagree with the idea of rewarding Resistance Democrats appalling behavior by shutting down future hearings. The Resistance is perfectly content to have backroom deals for Senate confirmation as long as they control the levers of power.
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I think how these hearings are conducted should be changed. I don't think they should be abolished. Getting rid of the hearings might sound all good right now due to the fact we have a "Republican" president and the Republicans are in control of the house and senate. However Republicans won't always have control. The nuclear option that allows for judicial confirmations with a simple majority. The Biden Rule that doesn't let a president get a justice nominated during his last year of his term.The Ginsburg precedent that allowed potential SCOTUS judges during confirmation process to not reveal their political positions. The other other nonsense that democrats did to give their side an advantage came back and bit them in the ass when they lost control. Getting rid of the hearings could come back and bite Republicans in the ass when they lose power.
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Thanks to the Democrats, the hearing process has devolved into a hateful display filled with animosity, screaming, and foul play, so I believe eliminating the hearings is the only way to avoid this unethical behavior and destruction of someone's character in the future.
This is a result of the removal of the cloture requirement that typically required bipartisan support for a Supreme Court nominee. The removal of the cloture requirement turned the Supreme Court confirmation process into a purely partisan appointment.

Admittedly the problem originated under Harry Reid that eliminated cloture for lower level federal judge positions but the lower level courts are not the US Supreme Court. It's not the same thing. Lower courts must comply with Supreme Court precedent while the Supreme Court creates the precedent.

Instead of eliminating the confirmation hearings I'd propose increasing the requirements for confirmation to 2/3rds of the Senate having to vote to confirm. Force all Supreme Court justices to be acceptable to both parties thereby ensuring that they're not partisan hacks on the Supreme Court.
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Thanks to the Democrats, the hearing process has devolved into a hateful display filled with animosity, screaming, and foul play....
Last Thursday I witnessed the animosity and "screaming" and it was by Brett Kavanaugh, not the Democrats or Dr Ford. Literally hundreds of legal professionals, lawyers, judges, and even a retired Supreme Court Justice that previously endorsed Kavanaugh's confirmation have now reversed themselves, opposing Kavanaugh's confirmation, and it's not because of the allegations of sexual misconduct under the influence of alcohol from over 30 years ago. It's because Kavanaugh proved that he lacks the judicial temperament to be on the Supreme Court and firmly established that his decisions will be partisan based upon his expressed animus towards Democrats.

Foul play? A mock FBI investigation where the FBI is prohibited from carrying out it's investigation is a pretty foul play by anyone's standards.

But Kavanaugh is very likely to be confirmed but instead of being a glowing mark on the Republican Party it's going to always haunt them. They had other candidates that could have tilted the Supreme Court in their favor like Kavanaugh and they didn't have a tarnished past. Why they stuck with Kavanaugh instead of just picking someone else that didn't have "baggage" is a question that they will be asked again and again forever.

Kavanaugh is going to have a larger * by his name than any other Supreme Court justice in history.
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Last Thursday I witnessed the animosity and "screaming" and it was by Brett Kavanaugh, not the Democrats or Dr Ford. Literally hundreds of legal professionals, lawyers, judges, and even a retired Supreme Court Justice that previously endorsed Kavanaugh's confirmation have now reversed themselves, opposing Kavanaugh's confirmation, and it's not because of the allegations of sexual misconduct under the influence of alcohol from over 30 years ago. It's because Kavanaugh proved that he lacks the judicial temperament to be on the Supreme Court and firmly established that his decisions will be partisan based upon his expressed animus towards Democrats.

Foul play? A mock FBI investigation where the FBI is prohibited from carrying out it's investigation is a pretty foul play by anyone's standards.

But Kavanaugh is very likely to be confirmed but instead of being a glowing mark on the Republican Party it's going to always haunt them. They had other candidates that could have tilted the Supreme Court in their favor like Kavanaugh and they didn't have a tarnished past. Why they stuck with Kavanaugh instead of just picking someone else that didn't have "baggage" is a question that they will be asked again and again forever.

Kavanaugh is going to have a larger * by his name than any other Supreme Court justice in history.
Gee, who wouldn't be impassioned or even angry as they watched their good name dragged through the mud by Resistance Democrats intent on turning the confirmation into a hate fest? Had Kavanaugh applied the same calm, judicial demeanor he brings to the bench to his self defense Democrats and their media toadies would have painted him as being overcome by guilt. Despite Kavanaugh's skillful dismantling of Blasey Ford's accusations with tact, the ranking Democrat on the committee was so out of touch with the proceedings she sputtered out "So, you are denying you did this?". Other committee Democrats were were so worried about losing Blaisy Ford as their human shield they ignored the gaping holes, contradictions and evidence undermining her story in favor of an examination of Kavanaugh's high school year book and demands the nominee call for a 7th background check of himself.

Committee Democrats couldn't derail Kavanaugh's confirmation with borking no matter how much they tried smear and fear. What to do to appease their Resistance crazies? Why, find a new Anita Hill of course. Partisan Democrats engaged in these tactics of smear and false accusations against Republican nominees when the 60 vote rule was still in place. Today they repeat the same vicious partisan scorched earth campaign enhanced with mob violence on the streets and the halls of Congress. Bringing back the requirement for a super majority for confirmation isn't going to stop Democrats from conducting no holds barred partisan warfare against Republican nominees.
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This is a result of the removal of the cloture requirement that typically required bipartisan support for a Supreme Court nominee. The removal of the cloture requirement turned the Supreme Court confirmation process into a purely partisan appointment.

Admittedly the problem originated under Harry Reid that eliminated cloture for lower level federal judge positions but the lower level courts are not the US Supreme Court. It's not the same thing. Lower courts must comply with Supreme Court precedent while the Supreme Court creates the precedent.

Instead of eliminating the confirmation hearings I'd propose increasing the requirements for confirmation to 2/3rds of the Senate having to vote to confirm. Force all Supreme Court justices to be acceptable to both parties thereby ensuring that they're not partisan hacks on the Supreme Court.
Increase it to 2/3 you won't see a confirmation for decades. No Trump nominated pick would have been acceptable to the left.

Like the man says. Elections have consequences. You want input come up with a better candidate than Hillary. Maybe a middle of the road candidate acceptable to 2/3 of the voters.
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Thanks to the Democrats, the hearing process has devolved into a hateful display filled with animosity, screaming, and foul play, so I believe eliminating the hearings is the only way to avoid this unethical behavior and destruction of someone's character in the future.
kind of a "knee-jerk" reaction that.
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