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Old 06-24-2018, 03:48 PM
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The strategic blunder of ‘Trump-as-Hitler’
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You knew it was coming. Eighteen months into the Trump administration and the president’s ostensibly serious critics have finally broken the glass on the “Trump-is-a-Nazi” line of attack.

To be certain, there were previous allusions to this from media, Democrats and “Never Trumpers” — accusations of authoritarianism meant to implicitly draw the connection between President Donald Trump and Nazi Germany. Apart from the “over-woke,” under-informed Hollywood set, however, critics largely managed to avoid making the explicit comparison.

Until now, that is, with the issue of family separations at the U.S. border dominating headlines.



But overwrought comparisons to the Nazis are both historically illiterate and an extreme strategic misstep. The president’s critics have crossed a rhetorical line from which there can be no turning back.

That the Trump administration would be compared with Nazi Germany is not surprising. Accusations of “Republicans-as-fascists” long predate this administration. A Democratic congressman accused President Ronald Reagan of “trying to replace the Bill of Rights with fascist precepts lifted verbatim from ‘Mein Kampf.’ ” In more recent times, recall Keith Olbermann’s tarring of President George W. Bush as a “fascist” in an on-air segment in 2008, an appellation also bestowed upon other members of the Bush administration.

Perhaps memories of the unfair accusations of fascism experienced by her husband explain Laura Bush’s decision to break ranks and instead go with a tortuous comparison of separating families of illegal border-crossers with the internment of Japanese-American citizens, keeping with the World War II theme but without resorting to outright accusations of Nazism.

Others, however, have no such compunction. Members of Congress, former officials, reporters and TV commentators have tweeted comparisons of U.S. detention facilities to Nazi concentration camps or issued none-too-subtle invocations of gas chambers in their tweets about children being led away from their parents by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. Reporters have peppered administration officials with questions about their “Nazi” tactics.

On Friday, an MSNBC commentator extended the Nazi label to every Trump supporter, declaring: “If you vote for Trump then you, the voter, you, not Donald Trump, are standing at the border, like Nazis, going: ‘You here, you here.’”

Earlier, one magazine fact-checker beclowned herself by mistaking the tattoo of an ICE forensics analyst — a wounded Marine veteran and Paralympian — as a Nazi symbol.

Given that the Obama administration also housed separated children in “cages,” which merited the faintest of peeps from supplicant media, politicians and activists, this newfound outrage comes off as contrived partisanship.
As evidenced here at PW, the allure of the Godwin fallacy is a powerful one. Keep cranking it all the way up to 11 I say. What could go wrong?
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Redd said in another thread that this kind of sh*t is one of the reasons Trump was elected in the first place.

Have to admit I agree. Sort of. There's many reasons Trump was elected. That kind of juvenile hostility from the left was def one of 'em.

Now, as far as 2020 goes, the left def is makin' a mistake by this behavior. When independent voters look back at what lib politicians did during Trump's 4 years, all they're gonna see is 'em making exaggerated claims like Hitler, Nazi concentration camps, owners kickin' his staff outta restaurants, threatening to rip Melania's kids from her and throw 'em in cages with pedophiles, claimin' ICE are terrorists, sayin', "we're comin' for you" to Trump Jr's 4-year-old daughter, holdin' a bloody severed head of Trump, screamin', "FUQ TRUMP!" at award ceremonies, sayin' they hope the economy fails, accusing Trump of physically abusing Melania, claiming Trump is runnin' a child trafficking ring, sayin' standing for the National Anthem is the same as the Nazi salute, claiming Trump has done more damage to our country than Bin Laden, sayin' Trump is a white supremacist, callin' Mike Pence's Christianity a mental illness, etc. etc. etc....

These sort of extreme, vile, and hateful actions will be viewed very negatively among swing voters.
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Ironic since his daughter is Jewish (she converted) her husband is Jewish, their children are Jewish.
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Redd said in another thread that this kind of sh*t is one of the reasons Trump was elected in the first place.
Partially...

I agree with the OP, but to add...

It's ALSO the attacks on the voters from the Dems/Media/Elitist class...

When Obama won, he got votes from the "middle class" or the "working class"...

But when Trump won (and even before then), these very same voters were NOW dubbed "uneducated"...

Donald Trump won. Let the uneducated have their day.

The educational rift in the 2016 election

WHY ARE WHITE, UNEDUCATED VOTERS VOTING FOR TRUMP?

Trump overwhelmingly leads rivals in support from less educated Americans

Also, for years under the Messiah, we heard of a "post-racial" America...

...That was, until the voters didn't vote the way the Dems/Media/Elitist class wanted them to...Then they went back to their tired, old narrative...

RESEARCH FINDS THAT RACISM, SEXISM, AND STATUS FEARS DROVE TRUMP VOTERS

CNN guest openly argues all Trump voters are racist

Hillary Clinton Says Trump Appealed To Racist, Sexist Voters

Racism motivated Trump voters more than authoritarianism

It isn't "simply" that Trump is being called a Nazi leader...It's also that the people that voted for him are being called "Nazis", too...

MSNBC's Deutsch equates Trump voters to Nazi guards: 'If you vote for Trump, you're the bad guy'

Do Donald Trump supporters realize how they parallel Neo-Nazis?

It’s Time to Take the Nazi-Trump Comparisons Seriously

Howard Dean Compares Trump’s Voter Base to Neo-Nazis Burning Swastikas

I recently heard that Charles Krauthammer once said something I've always said and believed...

The Right thinks the Left is misguided and stupid...the Left thinks the Right is stupid and EVIL...

I have no clue how they think attacking voters will make them come to their side...Maybe a few squishy, pajama-boy types that feel they need to be part of the elitist class, but nowhere near a major chunk of voters...
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