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Old 06-24-2018, 09:24 AM
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"George Will is a very conservative columnist whose views I strongly disagree with. But even Will recognizes that, in this dangerous moment in American history, Paul Ryan and the Republican members of Congress are political cowards who have abdicated their constitutional responsibility of being an independent branch of government, and have become nothing more than Trump's "poodles." That is why Will now advocates for a Republican defeat in the November elections".
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.882eb037f095

Just found that interesting.



So do you think the border stuff along with media hyping it will help to determine the election coming soon?
More nonsense. Why would I vote for a Democrat when the only thing they have to offer is vote against the other guy?

I'm not a fan of the current Congress regardless of the party under discussion, I'd like to see them all go. But to claim that it is the Republicans have abdicated their responsibility ignores the previous 8 years.
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Maybe he is wanting to save Democracy.
If so, he is foolish as your statement.
The United States of America was not created as a democracy and has never been a democracy.
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It is sad to see a the once vibrant Conservative George Will reduced to a pool of bitterness in his footage. Trump accelerated his decline into a go along, get along former Republican but it started years ago when Will began castigating the Republican controlled House for not crafting legislation pleasing to Democrats. Will became a flack for Boehner's style of corrupt leadership ignoring the majority of his caucus in favor of aligning a minority cadre of Republicans to assist Democrats.

Trump blew up the comfortable nest of assertions that so-called Conservatives allowing them to fulminate against the ascendancy of the fundamental transformation while remaining supine to its advance.

Sorry you are upset George but your fellow country club Republicans couldn't even convince primary voters that Jeb's policies like open borders were good for them despite a $130 million in lubricant.

Trump came along and committed political suicide by among other true Conservative policies stem the flow of illegals and enforce our immigration laws. Will like Bill Kristol, Frum and Schmidt, reacted to defend their elite positions, instead of trying to understand the appeal of Trump's populism they make common cause with the radicalism of the Democrat party.
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George Will waited until Charles Krauthammer died before making his statement. He didn't want to be eviscerated by a real conservative for his idiotic statement.
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Not anywhere near as much as he used to be for all sorts of reasons.....


I agree.....
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George Will waited until Charles Krauthammer died before making his statement. He didn't want to be eviscerated by a real conservative for his idiotic statement.
Charles Krauthammer was not as Donald happy as pretend cons are today.....


References appliclicable are mcCain, Romney and Ryan voters yesterday claiming higher ground with the Donald now.....


So hypocritical......
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Why would I vote against the GOP when the candidates they offer are at least trying to preserve the country and the constitution? They may not be doing a very good job, but they are trying.
The DNC on the other hand has decided the constitution, the country itself and national sovereignty are outdated concepts that should no longer be applicable.
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If you want to hand over our nation's sovereignty to the UN, if you want to allow unfettered illegal immigration, if you want to give up our freedom to defend ourselves from criminals, if you'd like to see corrupt and criminal elected officials violate our laws with impunity, and if you'd like to pay more in taxes to support more fiscally unsustainable programs and an all-powerful federal government, then be sure to vote against the GOP.
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If you want to hand over our nation's sovereignty to the UN, if you want to allow unfettered illegal immigration, if you want to give up our freedom to defend ourselves from criminals, if you'd like to see corrupt and criminal elected officials violate our laws with impunity, and if you'd like to pay more in taxes to support more fiscally unsustainable programs and an all-powerful federal government, then be sure to vote against the GOP.
Well, there are some of the independent parties that have had decent showings in the past. I've been known to crossover party lines within one election.... I vote not by party, but by person.
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The full rebuttal is at the link, but this is the pertinent part...

George Will: Vote Democrat This Fall If You Care About Your Country

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It would be much easier to make the case for voting for Democratic if Democrats acted like they wanted Republicans voting for them. In a saner world, a war on the right between centrists and populists would lead Democrats to move a bit to the right themselves, opportunistically, to try to pry loose a few of those right-leaning centrists. In the world we live in, Democrats are moving left. Theyíve never been more radical on immigration. To the extent that their orthodoxy on hot buttons like guns and abortion has changed, itís shifted towards maximum liberalization of the latter and maximum restriction of the former. The leftís calculation appears to be that it would be both immoral to compromise with the center-right and unnecessary, on the theory that Bernie Would Have Won and the solution to Democratic electoral problems is simply a purer socialism than Hillary Clinton ever would have condoned. The partyís leftward momentum, progressives would tell you, isnít just the right thing to do politically, itís the right thing to do electorally. And so theyíre offering the center-right precisely nothing to get them to cross the aisle. How can Republican voters accept an invitation that hasnít been made?
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