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Old 03-25-2018, 08:16 AM
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At the time, Putin hadn't launched a chemical attack against our closest ally, or hacked our Electrical Grid, or hacked our airports, or you know meddled in our election.

But yah, totally the same thing.
Putin didn't personally do it, but hey, wise up a bit. The Russians and the USA have both been doing those things for years.
The hacking has probably only been the past 25 years or so since computers became mainstream. Chemical/Poisoning has been going on for over 2000 years. Meddling in elections has been going on for as long as elections have existed.
The US has been meddling in other country's elections (including Russia's) for longer than either you and I have been alive. It's part of what countries do. Don't be obtuse.
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The difference is Putin has meddled in USA elections and been spying right here in our country n top official offices. Plus recent condemnation of his assassinations.
Russians always meddle in US elections.
News flash for you: The US also meddles in Russian elections.

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Once we hoed for the best and maybe he couldn't see a foothold. Now he seemed emboldened. I don't feel as safe with Trump that is for sure.
Putin wasn't "emboldened" because of the President Trump candidacy. Opposing governments always try to take advantage when available, including the US. It has nothing to do with who the current siting president is.

The Russian's strongest ally right now are the people protesting the current sitting POTUS regardless of what he does.
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The Russian's strongest ally right now are the people protesting the current sitting POTUS regardless of what he does.
THIS!!!

There is a big difference between having differing opinions with the President on policy and openly having hatred for the person no matter what he does. You hit it right on the head. THAT is what Russia wants, regardless of who is the sitting President.
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The US also meddles in Russian elections.
Perhaps.

But what effect might that have, anyway?

Russian "elections" (and one uses the word rather loosely) are rigged. So they are not really elections--at least, not in the Western sense of the word.
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Perhaps.

But what effect might that have, anyway?

Russian "elections" (and one uses the word rather loosely) are rigged. So they are not really elections--at least, not in the Western sense of the word.
But the US meddles for the same reason the Russians did...To create chaos...

The goal is not to have a specific candidate win, but to upset the establishment apple cart...
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But the US meddles for the same reason the Russians did...To create chaos...

The goal is not to have a specific candidate win, but to upset the establishment apple cart...
I would agree with that except for the instance where the US, under Obama, worked to turn the election in Israel against Netanyahu.
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I would agree with that except for the instance where the US, under Obama, worked to turn the election in Israel against Netanyahu.
Agreed, but I was responding to the fact that Russian elections are rigged...
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Agreed, but I was responding to the fact that Russian elections are rigged...
Agreed. Just wanted to point out that specific instance.
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Perhaps.

But what effect might that have, anyway?

Russian "elections" (and one uses the word rather loosely) are rigged. So they are not really elections--at least, not in the Western sense of the word.
Based upon the DNC manipulating the Democrat primary (as evidenced by WikiLeaks) to remove Bernie Sanders, I'd say that the U.S. elections are rigged also.
I find it amazing that the DNC, the MSM, the FBI and the DOJ have ignored what happened during the Democrat primary.
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Based upon the DNC manipulating the Democrat primary (as evidenced by WikiLeaks) to remove Bernie Sanders, I'd say that the U.S. elections are rigged also.
I find it amazing that the DNC, the MSM, the FBI and the DOJ have ignored what happened during the Democrat primary.
You are correct. However, it is not illegal for a party to determine how it selects it's candidates. There are no laws that even mandate that the parties have to have a primary. If they wanted, they could just get together in a room and pick one; they used to do that very thing.

What it does however is point out the blatant hypocrisy of the left claiming that Trump and the Russians rigged the general election while ignoring the fact that they did nothing but put on a dog and pony show during the primaries to disguise the coronation of pantsuit by the party elite.
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