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Old 02-12-2018, 04:17 PM
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I didn't say BAN or censor the doughnut SHOP did I?
So no the grocery store obviously shouldn't be "forced to censor" any foods.
My analogy clearly talked about a place where you would NOT necessarily expect or NEED to have doughnuts OR candy offered.
there's a time and place for everything.





umm What?
Sooo people want to shoot innocent people more because loaded guns are left in the lobby table in the office? what?
I'm not seeing how this fits into the analogy FI66. sorry.



It's about what men should do and how women can help, Yes.
But how horrible is that? Heaven forbid Men and Women help each other!
Any help request is ONLY about "control".

I see it now, WHAT was i thinking?! why would anyone request such a thing. A request that helps men be better behaved and saves more women from BS attacks. Why would someone suggest it... I must want to control and oppress women.
what was i thinking. I hope they all go out of the house BUCK NAKED tomorrow in protest just to show us controlling men that Women can do whatever they want to do and don't have to be concerned about the opinions or lust problems of men.
that'll show us.
Maybe some people think that women are unable to control anything they do. Feminist may believe that only men are able to control outcomes. So they must be the only ones to suffer the burden of change.
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I didn't say BAN or censor the doughnut SHOP did I?
That's the fun part of this discussion.
Many people are not talking concretely about what they are complaining about....


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So no the grocery store obviously shouldn't be "forced to censor" any foods.
My analogy clearly talked about a place where you would NOT necessarily expect or NEED to have doughnuts OR candy offered.
there's a time and place for everything.
So what is the actual concrete example this is being paralleled with?


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umm What?
Sooo people want to shoot innocent people more because loaded guns are left in the lobby table in the office? what?
I'm not seeing how this fits into the analogy FI66. sorry.

Hollywood starlets are not being "left on a lobby table in an office" either.


My point is obviously about how temptation is made the responsibility of the person doing something like offering sweets or "sexual taunting" (as the OP put it)...


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It's about what men should do and how women can help, Yes. (like men often Run to help a women if he hears one scream. But i guess the scream is about controlling men etc.)
WTF?
This is why this thread is just meaningless.
People attack strawman complaints without giving an actual concrete example.

Who the heck has said that screaming is about controlling men?


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I see it now, WHAT was i thinking?!
First, note the " " I used...

Secondly, we live in a free society.
If we are going to ask people to curb those freedoms, then we should be talking about concrete situations. Not hypotheticals.

So the hyperbole regarding "nakedness" (which I acknowledge you prefaced with sarcasm) is simply moving in the wrong direction.
Hypothetical complaints have now moved to absurd hyperbole.


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Also, This isn't about Illegal abuse, which should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. It's about accusations and courts of public opinions that ruin lives. Every day we hear about someone being forced to resign because a woman made an accusation.
Can you go back and look at post #1 and figure out where you were saying this was "... about accusations and courts of public opinions that ruin lives".

The context of this thread morphs into whatever is convenient...
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:43 AM
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That's the fun part of this discussion.
Many people are not talking concretely about what they are complaining about....





Can you go back and look at post #1 and figure out where you were saying this was "... about accusations and courts of public opinions that ruin lives".

The context of this thread morphs into whatever is convenient...
Yes, like all threads this one morphed. I guess I'm trying to figure out how a woman can do everything in her power to taunt and seduce to get what they want and that is fine, but if a man makes an "Unwanted" move based on what the perception is, he has to be ruined, even though he committed no crime.

Remember we are not talking about actual Rape, or assault or anything that is against the law.
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Basically what Dog Man and others are saying is that women are responsible for the actions of the men who assault/rape/abuse them. They prescribe no personal accountability to men, who I guess they must assume are all unable to control their sexual and sadistic urges because a woman shows some skin. This is the same attitude/excuse they have in the Muslim world ironicly. Women are seen as seductress so must remain fully clothed so as not to seduce and make a man rape them.
RS, Have you ever had casual sex with a woman? Or got a little frisky with someone that you didn't marry? Let's say 20 years ago you did. Now today you are a respected individual, married, kids and all that. Now a woman comes out and accuses you of sexual misconduct, you remember her, but also remember no misconduct. My question to you is this....

1. How long will you wait before you plead guilty?

2. Will you quit your job immediately? or wait until your fired?
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...years of training, becomes meaningless...

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...years of training, becomes meaningless...

That poor guy....I imagine he was not watching his feet.
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RS, Have you ever had casual sex with a woman? Or got a little frisky with someone that you didn't marry? Let's say 20 years ago you did. Now today you are a respected individual, married, kids and all that. Now a woman comes out and accuses you of sexual misconduct, you remember her, but also remember no misconduct. My question to you is this....

1. How long will you wait before you plead guilty?

2. Will you quit your job immediately? or wait until your fired?

"The context of this thread morphs into whatever is convenient... "
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"The context of this thread morphs into whatever is convenient... "
Yes, tough questions huh? Unfortunately it happens all the time. And it could happen to any of us for things we may or may not have done 20 years ago.
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Yes, tough questions huh? Unfortunately it happens all the time.

RedState is correct. And realizing that makes your comment laughable.

"it" happens all the time???
What is IT exactly???


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And it could happen to any of us for things we may or may not have done 20 years ago.
Let's put things into perspective, shall we?
Every 98 seconds someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted. That means every single day more than 570 people experience sexual violence in this country.
That is much more frequent than false accusations.

But you fixate on the false accusations. And at the very start of this thread you try to blame the whole thing on a specific, nebulous claim regarding some women.


Let's face facts.
The real reason that the scenario you later described exists IS BECAUSE MEN (in general) WANT IT THAT WAY.
Once you realize that, your whole charade of an ever-evolving thread is stripped away.

If men are promiscuous, they are labeled as a "stud".
If women are promiscuous, they are labeled as a "slut".
If a woman makes aggressive sexual advances on a woman, the man is not supposed to complain. That's not how women "created" the situation.
It's how our locker room mentality has impacted society.

What's to stop a man from complaining about a woman who makes inappropriate sexual advances?
Do the corporate laws dictate that it's okay for the woman to make sexual advances in the work-place but not for the women?


Your original rant fixates on the women.
You fail to recognize the real reasons for what you complain about.
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RedState is correct. And realizing that makes your comment laughable.

"it" happens all the time???
What is IT exactly???



Let's put things into perspective, shall we?
Every 98 seconds someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted. That means every single day more than 570 people experience sexual violence in this country.
That is much more frequent than false accusations.

But you fixate on the false accusations. And at the very start of this thread you try to blame the whole thing on a specific, nebulous claim regarding some women.


Let's face facts.
The real reason that the scenario you later described exists IS BECAUSE MEN (in general) WANT IT THAT WAY.
Once you realize that, your whole charade of an ever-evolving thread is stripped away.

If men are promiscuous, they are labeled as a "stud".
If women are promiscuous, they are labeled as a "slut".
If a woman makes aggressive sexual advances on a woman, the man is not supposed to complain. That's not how women "created" the situation.
It's how our locker room mentality has impacted society.

What's to stop a man from complaining about a woman who makes inappropriate sexual advances?
Do the corporate laws dictate that it's okay for the woman to make sexual advances in the work-place but not for the women?


Your original rant fixates on the women.
You fail to recognize the real reasons for what you complain about.
We have not been talking about sexual assault, we have been talking about the stupid stuff that has been happening lately. Stuff that we could ALL be excused of at some point in our life. Even you and Red State. I'm sure at some point in your life you have made a female (or male) feel uncomfortable.

I know you make me feel uncomfortable sometimes.
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