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There is a popular Star Wars internet meme that pops up from time to time. It talks about how, when Anakin Skywalker turned to the Dark Side and killed younglings, nobody blamed the lightsaber.

No. Nobody blamed the lightsaber. But it never should have fallen into Anakin Skywalker’s hands. Yoda, Mace Windu, and the Jedi Council could see this. They said no. They knew there was something terribly wrong with him. He shouldn’t own such a powerful weapon.

But Senator Palpatine, hungry for power and motivated by his religion, manipulated events so that the lightsaber would fall into the boy’s hands. He knew the violence that would come of it. Indeed, he planned on it. His future as Emperor hinged upon it.

The senator made greater and greater power grabs, finally ousting the elected leader. He began building an army of unquestioning clones to solidify his power base. He created conflict after conflict, sacrificing his minions along the way, to keep the people distracted from his selfish climb to the top.

Anakin was buffeted with war and tragedy, while his fears were played upon by this evil man. He eventually succumbed to the unrelenting fear and rage and did horrible things. He killed innocent people. Friends. Children.

Palpatine became Emperor. With all humanity stripped from him, Skywalker became Darth Vader. He continued to commit monstrous atrocities in the name of his religion. He justified to himself he was doing the right thing.

The Emperor continued to build the military to overwhelming numbers while flooding the galaxy with munitions. Soon, even a freighter captain couldn’t go anywhere without a sidearm, regardless of his seven-foot tall Wookiee partner. The galaxy was ruled by violence and fear.

So, no, don’t blame the lightsaber. Blame a dark and greedy sub-culture justifying itself with religion and false patriotism, while glorifying violence and promoting fear. They created the atmosphere that put this weapon in the wrong man’s hands. And it caused the deaths of countless people.

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WHAT A PILE OF HOOEY.
There is no connection to religion as described by the author who apparently felt the need to kidnap the narrative of a "FICTION' to make their point. Under what license did they do that?

Here is the thumbnail history of palpatine and in it is no mention of religion...NONE.
The Galactic Empire, also known as the First Galactic Empire or the New Order, or simply the Empire or the Order, and remembered as the Old Empire, was the galactic, autocratic government that processed a galaxy-wide empire which replaced the Galactic Republic in the aftermath of the Clone Wars.

Rising to power in the final years of the Republic, the Sith Lord Darth Sidious gradually secured the government under his control through the persona of Sheev Palpatine, the last Supreme Chancellor of the Republic. Through his machinations as both Sidious and Palpatine, the Sith were restored to a position of dominance amidst the fall of the Jedi Order and the marginalization of the Galactic Senate. Without the Jedi guardians of peace and justice to oppose him, Sidious brought an end to a thousand years of democracy; in its place he installed the absolute rule of himself as Galactic Emperor.

For over two decades, opposition to the Imperial regime was ruthlessly suppressed by the rapidly expanding armed forces of the Empire. Throughout most of the Empire's existence, the Imperial Senate stood within the Empire as the last surviving symbol of the Republic. With the completion of the Death Star, the Emperor felt confident enough to dissolve the body of galactic representatives while maintaining his control over the galaxy through a collective of sector governors and the overall fear that the new battle station would inspire. However, the growing resentment to Imperial rule gradually led to the rise of various resistance movements that ultimately culminated in the formation of the Alliance to Restore the Republic. United by a common goal, the Alliance became a viable threat to the Empire after its successful theft of the Death Star plans and the station's subsequent destruction at the Battle of Yavin.

Throughout the Galactic Civil War, Imperial and Alliance forces fought across the galaxy in a conflict that culminated in the deaths of Darth Sidious and his apprentice, Darth Vader, at the Battle of Endor in 4 ABY. With the Sith extinct, the Grand Vizier of the Imperial Ruling Council, Mas Amedda, effectively succeeded Palpatine as Emperor in all but name but held limited power beyond Coruscant as the Empire fully evolved into a stratocracy dominated by military officers. It was during this time when the Empire split into a variety of separate factions, fiefdoms, and holdouts, known as Imperial remnants, dominated by various warlords—breakaway moffs, governors, admirals, and generals— due to the lack of a line of succession for the Imperial throne and unclear chain of command while the official Imperial government remained on Coruscant. However, as the shattered forces of the Empire struggled to maintain their war effort against the rising momentum of the newly formed New Republic, the power of Amedda and the centralized government faded with the rise of Fleet Admiral Gallius Rax, a warlord who controlled the largest fraction of the Imperial Navy.

Within a year of Palpatine's demise, Rax, controlling the largest Imperial fleet and holding the position of Counselor to the Empire, organized the Jakku Imperial remnant as the Empire made its final stand on the desert world of Jakku at the Battle of Jakku against the New Republic. However, Counselor Rax died and the Empire was decisively defeated by the Republic, consequently resulting in its capitulation to the Republic through the signing of the Galactic Concordance in 5 ABY which led to the dissolution of the central Imperial government, reducing the Empire to a mere rump state of what it once was. During the New Republic Era, what remained of the Empire was decentralized and transformed into a patchwork of independent territorial possessions all politically united by Imperial tradition and ideals, though hemmed by strict disarmament treaties and harsh reparations. One of these entities was formed in Core and Inner Rim, which was forced to remain within its borders. A new government on Coruscant, led by Grand Vizier Mas Amedda and overseen by the Republic, was formed, though it was a provincial administration that held little real power.

Yet despite the fall of the Empire, its legacy endured for decades in the Unknown Regions of space, where former Imperial officers, nobles, technologists, soldiers, and loyalists, among them Grand Admiral Rae Sloane and Commandant Brendol Hux, had jumped ship to after the Battle of Jakku through the efforts of Rax and a secret Contingency devised by Darth Sidious based on knowledge provided by Grand Admiral Thrawn, a native of the Unknown Regions. There, they formed a military junta called the First Order, and began building their military forces in secrecy and plotting their eventual return to power and reclamation of the lost Imperial legacy and cause.
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Speaking about the Force in a 1977 documentary, George Lucas says,

"It's sort of boiling down religion into a very basic concept. The fact that there is some deity or some power some… force that controls our destiny or works for good and also works for evil is always been very basic in mankind."

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Instead of God, George Lucas’ Star Wars saga speaks of ‘The Force’. Taken from Carlos Castaneda’s Tales of Power, the term nevertheless carries clear connections with more recognisable theology. For instance, the blessing ‘May the Force be with you’ echoes an old Christian one of ‘May God be with you’. In addi*tion, the voice of the spectral Jedi Master Obi-Wan proclaims to young Luke Skywalker ‘Remember, the Force will be with you always’, reflecting Jesus’ comforting of his disciples: ‘And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age’, (Matthew 28:20).

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It is a period of civil war. A new government has declared the practice of the old faith a crime punishable by death, disbanding an ancient order of sages and sending many into exile. Rebel fighters, striking from a hidden base, have won their first major victory against the evil Empire, stirring a spirit of defiance among the populace. Outarmed and vastly outnumbered, the ragtag band of rebels – aided by an all-powerful, all-permeating Force that binds together all life in the universe – remain the only hope for restoring peace and freedom to their people.
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It's one of the greatest epics known to mankind. No, not Star Wars. The above synopsis is actually the story of Hanukkah, the eight-day Jewish festival that commemorates a miraculous victory of Israelite insurgents against the tyrannical Seleucid Empire roughly 2,200 years ago.
From Jediism to Judaism: Star Wars as Jewish Allegory
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... The father, Anakin Skywalker, played by the unmistakably un-Jewish Hayden Christensen, tried to convert to Jediism, but as we know he ultimately turned to the Dark Side instead.
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From Jediism to Judaism: Star Wars as Jewish Allegory
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... The father, Anakin Skywalker, played by the unmistakably un-Jewish Hayden Christensen, tried to convert to Jediism, but as we know he ultimately turned to the Dark Side instead.
Actually, Jediiism and the dark side are one and the same. They both use the force.
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Interesting how the same people who would not blame the Light saber, blame the gun.
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Interesting how the same people who would not blame the Light saber, blame the gun.
That's because that type of people are idiots.
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Interesting how the same people who would not blame the Light saber, blame the gun.
Or they blame silly brainwashed people for worshiping at the NRA alter instead of using their noggin'
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Or they blame silly brainwashed people for worshiping at the NRA alter instead of using their noggin'
Extremism much?

There are many gun owners who don't 'worship at the alter of the NRA'. They believe in the Constitution, and the 2A, the ability to protect themselves, and that the government does not control they people, but the people should control the government.

If the writers of the Constitution didn't feel a need to make sure the government couldn't control the people, then those killed in the Revolution would have been for naught, and we should have stayed as subjects to the Crown.
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