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Old 12-14-2017, 07:50 PM
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Some politicians are calling for a government shutdown if the proposed tax reform bill doesn't contain amnesty for those here illegally. I see no problem with shutting down the behemoth federal government that has expanded way beyond its limited functions clearly enumerated in the Constitution. The following piece describes some ways the government can and should be reduced. This would not only expand freedom; it would also decrease the national deficit which many expect to increase when tax reform is passed.

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According to Article I, Section 9, Clause 7 of the Constitution, “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” When one or both Houses of Congress fails to pass a bill, or Congress and the president can’t come to an agreement on a bill, to fund the operations and agencies of the federal government, a government “shutdown” can occur. That can result in federal workers’ being furloughed and “nonessential” government services’ being suspended.
If some workers and services are nonessential, why the hell are we forced to pay for them? There's no legitimate reason.

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The federal government contains a myriad of agencies, bureaus, corporations, commissions, administrations, authorities, and boards. Some are independent (e.g., SBA, USPS, NASA, CPSC, CFTC, CIA, FCC, FTC, Ex-Im Bank, Peace Corps, NEA, NEH, NSA, FEMA, EPA, USAID), but most are organized under fifteen departments: Agriculture, Commerce, Defense, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Justice, Labor, State, Transportation, Treasury, and Veterans Affairs.

Most of these entities should be completely and permanently shut down, their funding and activities ended, all of their assets sold, and all of their bureaucrats laid off. Since the Republicans in Congress seem to never know where to begin to actually cut spending and drain the swamp, let me offer some suggestions from the full spectrum of the federal budget.

It’s time to shut down the Department of Education. The Constitution nowhere authorizes the federal government to have anything to do with education. The government should not fund anyone’s education or regulate education in any way. That means no Pell Grants; no student loans; no research grants to colleges; no government accreditation; no Title IX; no special-education, desegregation, diversity, or bilingual-education mandates; no Head Start funding; no Common Core; no math and science initiatives; no Higher Education, Elementary and Secondary Education Act; no school breakfast or lunch programs; and, of course, no Department of Education.

It’s time to shut down the U.S. empire. The Department of Defense currently functions more as a Department of Offense. The United States has more than 1,000 foreign military bases and stations troops in more than 150 countries. The U.S. military fights senseless foreign wars and engages in unnecessary military adventures. The U.S. military budget is higher than that of most of the world’s industrialized countries combined. Having a strong national defense doesn’t mean that the United States needs foreign military bases, U.S. troops deployed on foreign soil, entangling alliances, or an interventionist foreign policy.

It’s time to shut down the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA). The federal government spends tens of billions of dollars every year enforcing its drug laws, incarcerating Americans for drug possession or “trafficking,” seizing drug shipments, eradicating marijuana fields, and maintaining an army of armed bureaucrats in the DEA. Yet the war on drugs has done nothing but destroy financial privacy, erode civil liberties, needlessly swell prison populations, turn law-abiding Americans into criminals, fail to reduce drug use, and ruin more lives than drugs themselves. But since the Constitution doesn’t authorize the federal government to wage war on drugs; classify drugs on a schedule; concern itself with the eating, drinking, or smoking habits of Americans; or ban any substance, the war on drugs should immediately be ended and the DEA shut down.

It’s time to shut down the NEA and NEH. Together they have distributed more than $11 billion through more than 200,000 individual grants over the course of the 50 years they have been in existence. Yet, the federal government’s funding the NEA and NEH is blatantly unconstitutional. The government should not subsidize art and culture for the simple reason that it should not subsidize anything. Ordinary Americans should not be forced to provide welfare for cultural elitists. Funding for art and culture should be strictly voluntary. https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/...-shut-it-down/
The article calls for the shut down of many other departments and activities including subsidies, grants, the Department of Agriculture, and the redundant Department of Homeland Security because the Constitution doesn't grant the government the right to do any of these things. Because the article covers so much, I didn't copy the whole thing, but you can read it all here.

It's disgusting that some who were elected to represent U.S. citizens care more about lawbreaking immigrants than they do about citizens, but if they want to shut the government down, that's fine with me. I'd like to see a lengthy shutdown and decrease in spending on all nonessential and extraconstitutional activities.
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Some politicians are calling for a government shutdown if the proposed tax reform bill doesn't contain amnesty for those here illegally. I see no problem with shutting down the behemoth federal government that has expanded way beyond its limited functions clearly enumerated in the Constitution. The following piece describes some ways the government can and should be reduced. This would not only expand freedom; it would also decrease the national deficit which many expect to increase when tax reform is passed.



If some workers and services are nonessential, why the hell are we forced to pay for them? There's no legitimate reason.



The article calls for the shut down of many other departments and activities including subsidies, grants, the Department of Agriculture, and the redundant Department of Homeland Security because the Constitution doesn't grant the government the right to do any of these things. Because the article covers so much, I didn't copy the whole thing, but you can read it all here.

It's disgusting that some who were elected to represent U.S. citizens care more about lawbreaking immigrants than they do about citizens, but if they want to shut the government down, that's fine with me. I'd like to see a lengthy shutdown and decrease in spending on all nonessential and extraconstitutional activities.
trump should never have agreed to this as a bargaining chip.
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Some politicians are calling for a government shutdown if the proposed tax reform bill doesn't contain amnesty for those here illegally. I see no problem with shutting down the behemoth federal government that has expanded way beyond its limited functions clearly enumerated in the Constitution. The following piece describes some ways the government can and should be reduced. This would not only expand freedom; it would also decrease the national deficit which many expect to increase when tax reform is passed.



If some workers and services are nonessential, why the hell are we forced to pay for them? There's no legitimate reason.



The article calls for the shut down of many other departments and activities including subsidies, grants, the Department of Agriculture, and the redundant Department of Homeland Security because the Constitution doesn't grant the government the right to do any of these things. Because the article covers so much, I didn't copy the whole thing, but you can read it all here.

It's disgusting that some who were elected to represent U.S. citizens care more about lawbreaking immigrants than they do about citizens, but if they want to shut the government down, that's fine with me. I'd like to see a lengthy shutdown and decrease in spending on all nonessential and extraconstitutional activities.


They can start with the Mueller court.
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trump should never have agreed to this as a bargaining chip.
I agree. Amnesty shouldn't even be on the table.
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