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ya know, that stuff only goes so far. when you're talking great depression and great recession, and no regs to start out then regs deleted, you gotta put the regs back
you dont even have to call it regulation if that word scares you. you can call it lil green meany, but without them we are a slave state.
Great Recession. You mean the one that ended in 2009? and after almost 8 years did not recover? Not until Nov. 2016
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:45 PM
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yeah bernie sanders should have been president but the good dont win much and if it looks like they might both sides try to nullify them or outright cheat. i didnt like either of them either but knew trump would be just what he's a;ways been a shady shiddy lil bastard who drums up reality show hype to meet his goals. he would stop at nothing. hillary had corporate ties. that looks like sunday school compared to what congress just did to us and the way trump is egging on a nuclear war.
but hey to each his own
as far as Trump "egging on a nuclear war" goes. Hillary was doing the same. She's had it in for Russia for some time now. She said that the Hacking should be responded to by ALL MEANS. She wanted us to FIGHT Syria ..against the Russians.
Trump isn't poking Russia. OR even CHINA now. he's messing with crazy little NORTH Korea. And all he's doing at this point is Tweeting at them.
if that leads to Nuclear war I'd be shocked. But Frankly we've been wondering if North Korea is going to go Nuclear since Bush the 1st. Check the news/history we've always been at the Brink of a nuke war with them.

so yes I say Hillary was MORE dangerous and MORE of a dangerous war hawk than Trump.

Rand Paul .. of all the candidates... was the LEAST likely to go to war. Bernie has never really been Shy of wars. Check his record.
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Here is the definition of slave for you,
A person who is the property of and wholly subject to another; a bond servant.
Without re-defining the word "slave", name one slave in the USA.

Now, name one regulation (or a hundred) that you think if it(they) were removed would make the USA a slave state.

Making statements such as, "without them we are a slave state" is not only melodramatic but also foolish.

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some that if gone will break and/or kill us:
commercial banking being allowed to mix with mom and pop checking accounts. minimum wage. 8 hr day. 40 hour work week. insider trading. health department rules on clean water and sanitation. inspection of meat. ...
inability to form unions. equal opportunity. ..
None of what you said names a slave.
I asked you to not re-define the word, but you tried it anyway.
Name one slave in the USA.
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as far as Trump "egging on a nuclear war" goes. Hillary was doing the same. She's had it in for Russia for some time now. She said that the Hacking should be responded to by ALL MEANS. She wanted us to FIGHT Syria ..against the Russians.
yes she knew russia has been up to soviet cold war tricks. no love for her but I did like her stance on russia
and yes russia is behind unrest in syria and may promote isis types
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but porking putin.

OR even CHINA now.
china is behind north f ing korea. where do you think n k weapons are made by nk visa workers?


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he's messing with crazy little NORTH Korea. And all he's doing at this point is Tweeting at them.
if that leads to Nuclear war I'd be shocked. But Frankly we've been wondering if North Korea is going to go Nuclear since Bush the 1st. Check the news/history we've always been at the Brink of a nuke war with them.
so far diplomacy has worked. trump has no diplomats


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so yes I say Hillary was MORE dangerous and MORE of a dangerous war hawk than Trump.
and you'd be wrong. knowing how to use diplomacy is different that being a crazy unchecked president


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Rand Paul .. of all the candidates... was the LEAST likely to go to war. Bernie has never really been Shy of wars. Check his record.
paul is an isolationist
bernie mainly voted against war but for tools to give soldiers already fighting with one exception

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yes she knew russia has been up to soviet cold war tricks. no love for her but I did like her stance on russia
and yes russia is behind unrest in syria and may promote isis types
such as?

look the soviet block/Russia has lost most of it allies to to NATO at tis point they are literally SURROUNDED by nations that USED to be pro Russia but are now Pro-Euro/US.
And what "Old Tricks" are we talking about that the US hasn't done in triplicate around the world Saltwn?

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but porking putin.
lets say you're right. that means no war with Russia.


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china is behind north f ing korea.
Always has been. not new.
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where do you think n k weapons are made by nk visa workers?
Always has been. But it hasn't lead to Nuke war.
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so far diplomacy has worked. trump has no diplomats
Again he's made nice with China, If you say CHINA is in control then we have no worries right?

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and you'd be wrong. knowing how to use diplomacy is different that being a crazy unchecked president
Yes she knows how to use diplomacy to Bomb Lybia and kill it's president, and threaten Russia for BS that every foreign gov't is doing and the U.S. is doing in grand scale.

Russia has DONE NOTHING worthy of a war or a WAR stance on the part of the US. period.



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Paul is an isolationist
, "isolationist" meaning he doesn't want to fight BS wars. And get troops out of the Middle East. the horror.
lets think clearly here and not just follow political propaganda and name calling.
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bernie
let me reply like you did.
...BERNIE'S A SOCIALIST...end of discussion.
would that be a fair way to address Bernie's views on foreign policy and war Saltwn?

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Bernie mainly voted against war but for tools to give soldiers already fighting with one exception
Kosova
https://www.alternet.org/election-20...iolence-abroad

Libya
Hillary Clinton says Bernie Sanders voted for regime change in Libya | PolitiFact


Iraqetc
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02...war-hypocrisy/

As dangerous, reckless and a potential problem as Trump is, SO FAR he hasn't blundered us into war. Hillary would have sent troops and Planes into Syria already, (if you beleive the LAST POV she had on that subject) to Fight a war with RUSSIA.

BTW it's not RUSSIA that created or Supports ISIS, it's the US. ISIS mainly created from the War in Iraq when Bush's man in Iraq Stupidly Fired thousand of career Iraqi solders and gave them no pensions. And after that some were even TRAINED and Supplied by U.S. forces at various points to ATTACK Assad. And many of the "Syrian Rebels" we've supported have turned out to be ISIS, AlQueda and Al Nusra terrorist over and over again. Not to mention the "rebels" in Libya that Hillary supported were KNOWN to be a mix of Iraqi insurgents and Alqeda terrorist. And once they won they openly flew the black terrorist flag over the capitol. THANKS HILLARY AND OBAMA and Bernie that voted for that too.(and McCain and Romney and others of the GOP that cheere lead for it as well) .
but Neither of the Paul's were ever for intervention in Libya because well "isolationist!"
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lets say you're right. that means no war with Russia.



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Again he's made nice with China, If you say CHINA is in control then we have no worries right?

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control? cahoots whatever, they already said a war would be bad for nk and the us. do I have to spell that out?
do you know red chinese fought in the korean war? do you know they import nk and pakistan ese to work in munitions factories?
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spying
So Russia DIDN'T spy until TRUMP came to office Saltwn? you KNOW that complete BS.
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no means trumps girl friend will get favors
and NO WAR
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Yes she knows how to use diplomacy to Bomb Lybia and kill it's president, and threaten Russia for BS that every foreign gov't is doing and the U.S. is doing in grand scale.

Russia has DONE NOTHING worthy of a war or a WAR stance on the part of the US. period.




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russia is taking old ussr territory
muammar gaddafi orphaned more kids than any on the international adoption list before 911.
libyans begged us to help them
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