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Old 11-09-2017, 09:38 AM
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So you don't think that the United States' joining with Great Britain, Russia, Japan, Germany and a few others, in bombing the rest of world's productive capacity into dust had anything to do with it? The United States' productive capacity went mostly untouched; more or less leaving the US as the last man standing; and most of Europe as a very needy and damaged customer.

I think you give polices way too much credit.

However I do appreciate the response.
Very well said. It is amazing how the left views the past through the lens of how the world is today. I guess that is why they don't mind efforts to remove reminders of our past.
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Is "rigging" the primaries a crime?
Not that I know of. But I'll bet Bernie supporters wish it was.
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So you don't think that the United States' joining with Great Britain, Russia, Japan, Germany and a few others, in bombing the rest of world's productive capacity into dust had anything to do with it? The United States' productive capacity went mostly untouched; more or less leaving the US as the last man standing; and most of Europe as a very needy and damaged customer.

I think you give polices way too much credit.

However I do appreciate the response.
I believe the American productive capacity actually went into over drive during the war. A new united work ethic also transpired, that I do not believe we will ever see again in our lifetime, or the next few lifetimes. Everyone contributed, everyone was united..
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The international reputation of the United States [under Donald Trump's presidency] had plunged into the toilet.
Are you sure that you are not merely projecting your own views here?

President Trump seems to get along wonderfully with Shinzo Abe, the current Prime Minister of Japan.

Likewise, he appears to do splendidly with Moon Jae-in, the President of South Korea.

Even Xi Jinping, of China, seems to get along well with the man.

And I am guessing that President Trump will do rather well in his future stops in Vietnam and the Philippines, to round out his Asia tour.

On the other hand, Angela Merkel--of Germany's center-left party, the Christian Democratic Union--is no big fan of Donald Trump.

But I cannot think of another world leader with whom Donald Trump's reputation is poor.

Can you?

Please be specific.
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Are you sure that you are not merely projecting your own views here?

President Trump seems to get along wonderfully with Shinzo Abe, the current Prime Minister of Japan.

Likewise, he appears to do splendidly with Moon Jae-in, the President of South Korea.

Even Xi Jinping, of China, seems to get along well with the man.

And I am guessing that President Trump will do rather well in his future stops in Vietnam and the Philippines, to round out his Asia tour.

On the other hand, Angela Merkel--of Germany's center-left party, the Christian Democratic Union--is no big fan of Donald Trump.

But I cannot think of another world leader with whom Donald Trump's reputation is poor.

Can you?

Please be specific.
To progressives, if you are not a darling of European Socialists, you are considered not well respected.

I, on the other hand, would consider it a badge of honor to have European Socialist leaders upset with my policies. It would be confirmation that I was on the right track.
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Are you sure that you are not merely projecting your own views here?

President Trump seems to get along wonderfully with Shinzo Abe, the current Prime Minister of Japan.

Likewise, he appears to do splendidly with Moon Jae-in, the President of South Korea.

Even Xi Jinping, of China, seems to get along well with the man.

And I am guessing that President Trump will do rather well in his future stops in Vietnam and the Philippines, to round out his Asia tour.

On the other hand, Angela Merkel--of Germany's center-left party, the Christian Democratic Union--is no big fan of Donald Trump.

But I cannot think of another world leader with whom Donald Trump's reputation is poor.

Can you?

Please be specific.
I'm going by the Pew Research results from June based upon the confidence rating of Donald Trump to do the right thing in world affairs. I'll provide a few examples and the link for more comprehensive analysis.

COUNTRY / NO CONFIDENCE / CONFIDENCE

In Europe:
Germany / 87% / 11%
France / 86% / 14%
UK / 76% / 22%
Median / 79% / 18%

In Asia:
South Korea / 78% / 17%
Japan / 72% / 24%
Australia / 70% / 29%
Vietnam / 29% / 58%
Median / 57% / 29%

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Across the 37 countries surveyed in 2017, a median of only 22% say that they have at least some confidence in Trump to do the right thing regarding world affairs. Almost three-quarters (74%) have little to no confidence in the new U.S. leader.
Confidence in Trump low worldwide | Pew Research Center

This is compared to Donald Trump's predecessor Barack Obama:

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Across the 40 countries polled, a median of 65% say they have confidence in Obama to do the right thing in world affairs. A median of just 27% lack confidence in the American leader. Overall, Obama remains much more popular globally than his predecessor, but opinions vary significantly across nations and regions.
7 charts on how the world views President Obama | Pew Research Center

In world affairs it's generally acknowledge that the United States is no longer the leader of the Free World since Donald Trump took office.

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Angela Merkel is now the leader of the free world, not Donald Trump

The US President isn’t motivated by protecting liberal democracy or freedom, his sole ideology is Trumpism: corporate autocracy with a populist facade. And he surrounds himself with white nationalists even more hostile to liberal democracy than he is.
Angela Merkel is now the leader of the free world, not Donald Trump | The Independent

It's not my opinion that matters but instead it's the opinions of those in other nation that matters when it comes to Donald Trump and US involvement in world affairs.

We know, for example, that as far as South Korea is concerned there isn't a military option in dealing with North Korea. Any military conflict, even limited to conventional weapons, puts the lives of over one million South Koreans at risk of dying on the very first day of the conflict based upon the North Korean artillery and rockets that would rain down on Seoul on the first day of hostilities. The US cannot prevent this military response with air power and even a US lead ground invasion, that we're not prepared for, wouldn't prevent this initial response. A nuclear response by North Korea to US military action would potentially result in tens of millions of innocent people dying.

The "military option" is unacceptable for any rational person and President Trump still appears to be unwilling to negotiate any mutually beneficial agreement with North Korea.
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To progressives, if you are not a darling of European Socialists, you are considered not well respected.

I, on the other hand, would consider it a badge of honor to have European Socialist leaders upset with my policies. It would be confirmation that I was on the right track.
No one seems to know what Trump's policies actually are. He varies from day to day depending upon his mood or who's he's talking to.

The only policy that's been consistent is that Trump is for Trump and nobody else.
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