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One small problem...

The "opinion" of CNN is making the original comments made by Trump in Alabama as some sort of pre-calculated game...I don't think it was...I think it simply Trump being Trump...
if you read the op fox as well is betting on politics here
dont make it so holier than thou cause cnn takes a poll
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From a few days ago...

Since July of last year...when some guy name "Obama" was president, "race relations are bad" have decreased 4% and "race relations are good" have increased 2%...

Look at that chart..."race relations are bad" went from 26% in November, 2011, to 44% in July, 2013, to 57% in December 2014, before finally reaching 76% in July, 2016...when virtually EVERYONE had Hillary as the next president...

...but the Left was totally blind to it until someone came along they can NOW blame...
maybe trump has done races a favor

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If Obama could have kept his pie hole shut, Trayvon would not have made the front page of any newspaper.

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Trayvon had already made the news
but yeah he needed to be on the front pages. it was a crime and a tragedy perpetrated by a dum bass pseudo security guard azz ole' and thank god i cant even remember the turd's name.
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Trayvon had already made the news
but yeah he needed to be on the front pages. it was a crime and a tragedy perpetrated by a dum bass pseudo security guard azz ole' and thank god i cant even remember the turd's name.
A jury of his peers found George Zimmerman shot Trayvon in self-defense. This was after the police investigated and the district attorney declined to press charges. Only partisan zealots want to lynch him anyway.
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Trayvon had already made the news
but yeah he needed to be on the front pages. it was a crime and a tragedy perpetrated by a dum bass pseudo security guard azz ole' and thank god i cant even remember the turd's name.
It was a black kid on the prowl looking for something...

And he found it. Then he attacked it, and got shot by a person who used their right to protect themselves.

A Judge and a Jury agree's with that. But of course you don't.

Anti Trump hate is responsible for the largest mass shooting in our history. I suppose you disagree with that as well?

You hate Trumpers need a lesson to chew on.. Your hate is killing our nation. I hope your ready when the revolution to clean out the hate filled left comes.

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All Trump does it divide the country more everyday.
Sorry, but Trump inherited the divide. And the lefties are the ones that are increasing that divide with their fomenting hate for Trump and republicans everyday.

I'm sorry you can't see that.
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I can't recall anything but reflexively condemnation of Trump just like the so-called resistance demands. Democrats and their media toadies instantly brand Trump as a racist then demand to know which side you are on. There is no room to examine what was said rationally, just emote.
As the right-wing are fond of saying in another context, Trump built that.
Putting up Devos
Insults towards blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, ...
There have been so many threads pointing to his actions that have warranted disdain that it is amazing you actually try to pull off the lie that he was "instantly branded"


The reality is that if he had made whites or Christians his target, THEN people like you would take notice.
Blacks / Mexicans / Muslims? They should all get over what you wouldn't put up with.


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As you habitually do, inconvenient facts are edited out of the incident where Skip Gates was arrested. Unexamined are the reasons Obama felt obligated to try retracting his original statement first with a "clarification" then with the so-called beer summit.
I don't know where you get the stuff you claim.
Obama doesn't regret 'acted stupidly' remark - NY Daily News


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Then there is the matter of the other two officers on scene, one black, one Latino endorsing the decision to arrest Gates. In a city with a black police chief, a black mayor and a black governor close friends with Barack Obama somehow the white arresting officer escaped punishment for his racism.
I didn't say a word about racism.
So take your strawman and stuff it.

And more relevant is the fact that charges were dropped. There was no legitimate cause to arrest him.
FACT.


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Of course accusing others of a failure to condemn a political leader you despise is far easier than examining the facts around the statements of one you worship.
Your response is filled with b.s. and strawman. Par for your course.

But amusingly enough, not one syllable of your post addresses WHAT TRUMP DID when he attacked the business of the NFL and attempted to insert government into it.


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Instead of picking on Trump...
Yes.
By all means.
Everybody ignore one problem to fixate on others...
That's part and parcel of how Washington got as ****ed up as it is...


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Sorry, but Trump inherited the divide. And the lefties are the ones that are increasing that divide with their fomenting hate for Trump and republicans everyday.
I'm sorry you can't see that
Trump inherited a divide. True.
Lefties (and righties) are increasing that divide. True.

NONE of the above refutes the fact that TRUMP ALSO is increasing that divide.
And I can't help but be amazed at how you complain about lefties "fomenting hate" for republicans but completely failing to acknowledge how that happens with Republicans fomenting hate on the left as well.

And on another level, I find it amusing how the right spent so much time hearing "You hate Obama" as the summary for their opposition...
... but now you guys are so quick to pick up that mantra to ignore people criticizing Trump's actions.
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Trump inherited a divide. True.
Lefties (and righties) are increasing that divide. True.

NONE of the above refutes the fact that [b
TRUMP ALSO[/b] is increasing that divide.
And I can't help but be amazed at how you complain about lefties "fomenting hate" for republicans but completely failing to acknowledge how that happens with Republicans fomenting hate on the left as well.

And on another level, I find it amusing how the right spent so much time hearing "You hate Obama" as the summary for their opposition...
... but now you guys are so quick to pick up that mantra to ignore people criticizing Trump's actions.
We don't see the right fomenting like we do the left, many on the left are frothing along with the fomenting. Like nothing we have ever seen before.

I'm sorry you can't see the difference between the two.

Another accurate word for the left would be "Seething" as in violently agitated.
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As the right-wing are fond of saying in another context, Trump built that.
Putting up Devos
Insults towards blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, ...
There have been so many threads pointing to his actions that have warranted disdain that it is amazing you actually try to pull off the lie that he was "instantly branded"


The reality is that if he had made whites or Christians his target, THEN people like you would take notice.
Blacks / Mexicans / Muslims? They should all get over what you wouldn't put up with.



I don't know where you get the stuff you claim.
Obama doesn't regret 'acted stupidly' remark - NY Daily News



I didn't say a word about racism.
So take your strawman and stuff it.

And more relevant is the fact that charges were dropped. There was no legitimate cause to arrest him.
FACT.



Your response is filled with b.s. and strawman. Par for your course.

But amusingly enough, not one syllable of your post addresses WHAT TRUMP DID when he attacked the business of the NFL and attempted to insert government into it.



Yes.
By all means.
Everybody ignore one problem to fixate on others...
That's part and parcel of how Washington got as ****ed up as it is...



Trump inherited a divide. True.
Lefties (and righties) are increasing that divide. True.

NONE of the above refutes the fact that TRUMP ALSO is increasing that divide.
And I can't help but be amazed at how you complain about lefties "fomenting hate" for republicans but completely failing to acknowledge how that happens with Republicans fomenting hate on the left as well.

And on another level, I find it amusing how the right spent so much time hearing "You hate Obama" as the summary for their opposition...
... but now you guys are so quick to pick up that mantra to ignore people criticizing Trump's actions.
There have been so many threads and media attacks instantly branding Trump as a racist bigot, extreme incompetent, etc. The treatment of his remarks on NFL players disrespecting the flag and rejecting our country is no different. You whine about Republicans being unable to examine what Trump says then complain when it's explained that it's a byproduct of the extreme polarization created by Democrats and their media propaganda machine.

Obama doesn't regret his racist slander of officer Brawley, what a surprise. You will not regret your error when I point out Obama explicitly stated in his so-called clarification his remarks were directed at minorities treatment by the police. It is par for your course to make false accusations out of blind ignorance.

Trump did not attempt to insert government into the NFL. That is another blatant lie. Par for your course.
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We don't see the right fomenting like we do the left, many on the left are frothing along with the fomenting. Like nothing we have ever seen before.
I'm sorry you can't see the difference between the two.
You don't see what you don't want to see. Trump's popularity was built on his attack on various groups, but you want to blame people's reaction to such attacks and refuse to credit Trump's attacks themselves as the instigator.

If Obama had done half the things Trump had done, you guys would have called for his head.
But it's your boy, so he gets a pass from you.

The reality is I do see a difference.
But I'm also attributing the actual cause to the situation.
There is a reason why Trump's approval ratings is in the crapper.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html


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There have been so many threads and media attacks instantly branding Trump as a racist bigot, extreme incompetent, etc. The treatment of his remarks on NFL players disrespecting the flag and rejecting our country is no different. You whine about Republicans being unable to examine what Trump says then complain when it's explained that it's a byproduct of the extreme polarization created by Democrats and their media propaganda machine.
Obama doesn't regret his racist slander of officer Brawley, what a surprise. You will not regret your error when I point out Obama explicitly stated in his so-called clarification his remarks were directed at minorities treatment by the police. It is par for your course to make false accusations out of blind ignorance.
Trump did not attempt to insert government into the NFL. That is another blatant lie. Par for your course.
These excuses and refusals at self-reflection play well to the faithful who are already drinking the kool-aid.
To the rest of the country, they fall short.
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