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Old 08-13-2017, 09:51 AM
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A 32 year old female was killed by a car running into a crowd. I don't have to stay away from crowds in my country.
I understand your logic now.
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Why can't trump and the right denounce the white supremacists and nazis?
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Because that might be one of the few things that could erode his base.
Why can't you guys recognize this violence is the inevitable result of the Left's infatuation with identity politics? From the book of Hosea "They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind". There have been hundreds if not thousands of protests by disgusting fringe white nationalist crazy folk that ended peacefully. The wilful blindness to what is different this time, the violent Left wing thugs from the Antifada and BLM among other "counter protesters" is textbook Leftwing fascism.

Instead of the close minded demand that you must condemn the protestors and sign on to the purging of American history to suit Left wing fascism it would be refreshing to actually look into the Genesis of these riots.

Virginia is a swing state in Presidential elections but Charlottesville is not.

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With the university, founded by Jefferson in 1819, as its centerpiece, Charlottesville is a politically progressive city; nearly 80 percent of voters here cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton in last yearís presidential race.
Displaying the usual Progressive intolerance and ignorance, the city undertook a campaign to rewrite history ultimately by purging the statue of Confederate Robert E Lee and renaming the park where it stands.

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The debate over the statue began about a year and a half ago, when an African-American high school student here started a petition to have it removed. Wes Bellamy, the cityís vice mayor and the only black member of the City Council, took up the cause, and the Council set up a commission. After public hearings, it recommended either that the statue be relocated to another park or that the city add historical context so that the monument could ďtransform in place.Ē

Instead, City Council members voted 3 to 2 in April to sell the statue. The next month, a judge issued an injunction, keeping the statue in place for six months.
Enter protestors against the city council's decision to try rewriting history.

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The conflict drew the attention of two white nationalists ó Richard B. Spencer and Jason Kessler, both University of Virginia graduates
Of course in true Progressive fashion the city tried to deny the protestors their rights because their beliefs were offensive. Even the ACLU took exception.

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In the run-up to Saturday, there has been confusion over where, precisely, the Unite the Right rally will take place. City officials denied Mr. Kesslerís request to hold it in Emancipation Park, and instead granted a permit for a bigger park. On Thursday, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit on behalf of Mr. Kessler, seeking to keep the demonstration at Emancipation Park.

On Friday, a judge ruled in Mr. Kesslerís favor.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/1...ww.google.com/

Naturally Leftist thugs attacking a most likely peaceful, legally sanctioned protest against the city council's narrow decision is forgotten. Instead, we have a litmus test for racism demanding we ignore the rights of the protestors while ignoring the violence of the Progressive Left.
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Although I expected it, it just amazes me the RWers on this forum, or anywhere in America for that matter, defends a fellow conservative driving a car into a crowd. I knew you would do it, yet is it still disappointing.
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Why can't one condemn both sides (in the strongest possible terms)?

Obviously, neo-Nazis and KKK members (and sympathizers) are an utter disgrace to the conservative movement in America; they should be treated with total disdain.

But it is my understanding that the counter-protestors were bused in from Washington, DC, in order to instigate trouble.

I somehow cannot find it in my heart to laud either one of these despicable groups...
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Why can't you guys recognize this violence is the inevitable result of the Left's infatuation with identity politics? From the book of Hosea "They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind". There have been hundreds if not thousands of protests by disgusting fringe white nationalist crazy folk that ended peacefully. The wilful blindness to what is different this time, the violent Left wing thugs from the Antifada and BLM among other "counter protesters" is textbook Leftwing fascism.

Instead of the close minded demand that you must condemn the protestors and sign on to the purging of American history to suit Left wing fascism it would be refreshing to actually look into the Genesis of these riots.

Identity politics is toxic. That's why it's so useful. Tim Pool, who is left of center, has covered many of these events and though I don't agree with his every word and perception, he makes some good observations regarding symbols and the attacking of symbols. We all knew it was going to be a long hot summer.



"Charlottesville is the escalation of identity politics." Tim Pool.


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A 32 year old female was killed by a car running into a crowd. You trying to say it was self defense? I don't have to stay away from crowds in my country.
The guy in the car should be strung up for what he did.

The rest that were fighting came there to fight.

Both sides are equality to blame in those altercations. Both sides had helmets, body armor, bats, stick's, and 2 x 4's.
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Although I expected it, it just amazes me the RWers on this forum, or anywhere in America for that matter, defends a fellow conservative driving a car into a crowd. I knew you would do it, yet is it still disappointing.
WHAT!!!!! Who is defending that freak? Anyone that is defending him is a dipshlt.
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One bunch of morons with sticks meets up with another bunch of morons with sticks. Morons get hurt. Hard to tell who started what.

Stay away from crowds.
Both sides came to fight, anyone that can't see that is a Mo Ron.

The guy in the car is different. he needs to be strung up by his testicles.

The city should have been on this as soon as they saw both sides wearing helmets and body armor. They were obviously clueless.
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See post #12. It wasn't the killers fault, it "is the inevitable result of the Left's infatuation with identity politics?"
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Oh yea, helmets, body armor, sticks and open carry is legal in VA. What excuse would you have used to stop the neo-Nazis from assembling?
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