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because it is rhetorical

we pay for this foolish president's mistakes
Give him a break Salty he keeps nibbling around edges the trap pretty soon he's gonna spring it.
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From yer link.
production history

Designer Air Force Research Laboratory

Designed 2002

Manufacturer McAlester Army Ammunition Plant

Produced 2003

No. built 15

Common Jimbo, spring the trap I set for ya.
From my link:

Since 2003, 15 MOABs have been manufactured at the McAlester Army Ammunition Plant in McAlester, Oklahoma.

I don't know which gotcha you think you have. But I answered your question.
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From my link:

Since 2003, 15 MOABs have been manufactured at the McAlester Army Ammunition Plant in McAlester, Oklahoma.

I don't know which gotcha you think you have. But I answered your question.

Boeing delivers first batch of 30,000-pound bombs to Air Force

The Massive Ordnance Penetrator — the Air Force has ordered 20 from Boeing — is nearly five tons heavier than any other bomb in the military's arsenal and is made to pulverize underground targets.

November 16, 2011|By W.J. Hennigan, Los Angeles Times

<At a total cost of about $314 million, the military has developed and ordered 20 of the GPS-guided bombs, called Massive Ordnance Penetrators.>

<They are designed to be dropped on targets by the Boeing-made B-52 Stratofortress long-range bomber or Northrop Grumman Corp.'s B-2 stealth bomber.>

<Packed with more than 5,300 pounds of explosives and more than 20 feet long, the giant bunker-busting bombs were tested at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, the site of the first atomic bomb test during World War II.>

<Citing national security concerns, the Pentagon hasn't allowed Boeing to comment about the program. But the company's past news releases and publicly disclosed Air Force contract announcements indicate that Boeing developed and built the massive bomb at its Phantom Works facilities in St. Louis, where the company works on top-secret projects.>

<Experts took note of the fact that the military disclosed delivery of the new bunker-busting bomb less than a week after a United Nations agency warned that Iran was secretly working to develop a nuclear weapon. That country is known to have hidden nuclear complexes that are fortified with steel and concrete, and buried under mountains.>

Take note of the bolded parts and the underlined date as well,then do the math yerself...and you could do what someone told me somewhere, I think that it was post #13 in this thread "Try Google."

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov...-bomb-20111117
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Boeing delivers first batch of 30,000-pound bombs to Air Force

The Massive Ordnance Penetrator the Air Force has ordered 20 from Boeing is nearly five tons heavier than any other bomb in the military's arsenal and is made to pulverize underground targets.

November 16, 2011|By W.J. Hennigan, Los Angeles Times

<At a total cost of about $314 million, the military has developed and ordered 20 of the GPS-guided bombs, called Massive Ordnance Penetrators.>

<They are designed to be dropped on targets by the Boeing-made B-52 Stratofortress long-range bomber or Northrop Grumman Corp.'s B-2 stealth bomber.>

<Packed with more than 5,300 pounds of explosives and more than 20 feet long, the giant bunker-busting bombs were tested at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, the site of the first atomic bomb test during World War II.>

<Citing national security concerns, the Pentagon hasn't allowed Boeing to comment about the program. But the company's past news releases and publicly disclosed Air Force contract announcements indicate that Boeing developed and built the massive bomb at its Phantom Works facilities in St. Louis, where the company works on top-secret projects.>

<Experts took note of the fact that the military disclosed delivery of the new bunker-busting bomb less than a week after a United Nations agency warned that Iran was secretly working to develop a nuclear weapon. That country is known to have hidden nuclear complexes that are fortified with steel and concrete, and buried under mountains.>

Take note of the bolded parts and the underlined date as well,then do the math yerself...and you could do what someone told me somewhere, I think that it was post #13 in this thread "Try Google."

Air Force receives first batch of 30,000-pound bombs from Boeing - latimes
Are you that misinformed? Never mind, that was rhetorical.

GBU 43/B MOAB. Designer/builder - USAF. USA McAlester Army Ammo Plant.

GBU 57 A/B Bunkerbuster. Builder - Boeing.

No gotcha there.
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Are you that misinformed? Never mind, that was rhetorical.

GBU 43/B MOAB. Designer/builder - USAF. USA McAlester Army Ammo Plant.

GBU 57 A/B Bunkerbuster. Builder - Boeing.

No gotcha there.
Still having troubles with cyphering/numbers EH?

McAlester Army Ammo Plant built 15 bombs in 2003.

Boeing built 20 bombs in 2011.

YA think that any competent General would choose 14 old ordnance over newer ordnance?
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