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You now have a theology? It's great that you read the Bible. So do I so do many others. Who is right? It's not up to me to judge.
the 1st post here seems to make a few judgments on what Christians should say and do though doesn't it? All base on "theology" and "Bible reading".


good for the goose.

But it seems to me an HONEST and FULL reading of Jesus's words and acts is what will at least tell us what Jesus might want Christians to say and do.
not what "society" today thinks is best
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the 1st post here seems to make a few judgments on what Christians should say and do though doesn't it? All base on "theology" and "Bible reading".


good for the goose.

But it seems to me an HONEST and FULL reading of Jesus's words and acts is what will at least tell us what Jesus might want Christians to say and do.
not what "society" today thinks is best
And it seems to me that you are wrong. And it seems to me that this forum is pretty much a time waster.
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Well, yeah.

It is sad when some non-believers know Christ better than some Christians.
I've always said I know many folks who are more Christian than some of us that darken the door at church.

Good people, right to the core and they never go to church.
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And it seems to me that you are wrong. And it seems to me that this forum is pretty much a time waster.
ookkk... wrong about what exactly? everything i said really?
or that the 1st post is using the Bible and theology to correct Christians?
"...The church has become a parody of itself, rife with hypocrisy and judgments. The message of Jesus’ love is drowned out by boycotts and screams, chants and threats.

I wish some very open minded folks could go read what I do and see how all of this translates to the greater community. Go see what is being said by atheists, agnostics, and just non-church going people. I wonder what kind of effect it would have on you. If your hearts have not hardened with self-righteousness, I think they would shatter.

You Christians are supposed to spread God’s love by showing it and teaching it and living it, not by legislating it and bullying it and beating it into people. That is why you are getting so much push-back. That is not persecution. That is rejection.

...Does the Church want to tell the world, “Jesus loves you, and so do we”? Or does it want to tell the world, “Jesus loves us no matter what, but Jesus hates you, because we deem it so”? The latter is the current message the world is getting...

Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied:..
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Seems to me this assumes a certain POV theologically and Biblically and is telling people what they should and should not do and say Quoting scripture no less to make the point.

what am i missing?
you said it's good that i read the Bible seems they read it to but few seem to question their POV, so what am i "wrong" about exactly?
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I've always said I know many folks who are more Christian than some of us that darken the door at church.

Good people, right to the core and they never go to church.
Jesus taught that none come to the Father except through me. A person may do great works of kindness on earth but will not receive salvation without accepting Jesus as savior.

The OP is typical ignorant secular Progressive propaganda designed to rationalize the rabid intolerance of those claiming to be champions of intolerance. Christian belief is a threat to the core belief of Progressives that the ultimate authority is not God but government.

Truth is no bar to dealing with the so called threat of Christianity to Progressive belief in the supremacy of government. The OP poses the absurdly false notion that only government led the way in liberating blacks from government imposed segregation laws as if the civil rights movement that led to the repeal of segregation laws was secular government dragging the church kicking and screaming to the bright new day. So complete is the anti Christian indoctrination of today's Progressive they eill not ask what the Reverend means before the name MLK or even today's so called civil rights leaders such as Al Sharpton. Instead, faith is invested in the Federal government from whom all blessings flow.
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You don't have to share a religion to point out hypocrisy do you?
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Anti-Christians favorite pastime is judging Christians...

"I don't believe in Jesus"

"I don't believe in Jesus"

"I don't believe in Jesus"

"I don't believe in Jesus"

"Here's how I, a person who doesn't believe in Jesus, will teach YOU how to be like Jesus."

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I think religion was developed to reign in the rampant horrors of life before religion. It was developed to give people a moral compass and compassion. Say what you want, but religion has done far more good in the world than bad.
There are endless religious groups out there helping their fellow man. But just like some on the left that judge all right wingers as racist, homophobic, women haters, some religious people judge people as something they are not.... It seems that the goal of Atheism is too convince people that Christianity is a bad thing, maybe instead they could turn to helping people....
Not to change the subject, but have any atheist types like Deckster ever criticized the Muslim religion? which continually hates on gays and women.
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Not to change the subject, but have any atheist types like Deckster ever criticized the Muslim religion? which continually hates on gays and women.
There are a couple of leftists who seem to criticize the Muslim cult, if only under "coercion", but they feel like they have to include every other belief in their criticism, so as not to allow Islam to look all evil.

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Jesus taught that none come to the Father except through me. A person may do great works of kindness on earth but will not receive salvation without accepting Jesus as savior.

The OP is typical ignorant secular Progressive propaganda designed to rationalize the rabid intolerance of those claiming to be champions of intolerance. Christian belief is a threat to the core belief of Progressives that the ultimate authority is not God but government.

Truth is no bar to dealing with the so called threat of Christianity to Progressive belief in the supremacy of government. The OP poses the absurdly false notion that only government led the way in liberating blacks from government imposed segregation laws as if the civil rights movement that led to the repeal of segregation laws was secular government dragging the church kicking and screaming to the bright new day. So complete is the anti Christian indoctrination of today's Progressive they eill not ask what the Reverend means before the name MLK or even today's so called civil rights leaders such as Al Sharpton. Instead, faith is invested in the Federal government from whom all blessings flow.
To the left, the government is like the all powerful OZ. But there are always different people behind the curtain manipulating the controls.
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Let’s remove all the legal arguments from this debate. For just a moment, forget the first amendment entirely. Instead, I want to talk with you about you, your church, and the community you represent.

Your stance on LGBTQ issues is ripping the Church apart. Christians are arguing in public forums, condemning one another to Hell, simply for supporting equality. They are taking it upon themselves to judge one another over well-reasoned theological differences. Overall church attendance is in significant decline, especially among Generation X and Millennials, and right now it looks as if the Methodist Church may split.

I don’t think this necessarily requires any “compromise” on your sincerely held beliefs at all. You just need to make a dramatic change in the way you express it. Why do you not handle this in the same manner you deal with divorce and other intensely personal situations? I see so many people who are being alienated, and it saddens me. You are separating families, forcing parents to choose between the Church and their children, between Grace and love.

The church has become a parody of itself, rife with hypocrisy and judgments. The message of Jesus’ love is drowned out by boycotts and screams, chants and threats.

I wish some very open minded folks could go read what I do and see how all of this translates to the greater community. Go see what is being said by atheists, agnostics, and just non-church going people. I wonder what kind of effect it would have on you. If your hearts have not hardened with self-righteousness, I think they would shatter.

You Christians are supposed spread God’s love by showing it and teaching it and living it, not by legislating it and bullying it and beating it into people. That is why you are getting so much push-back. That is not persecution. That is rejection.

In my mind, the question is very simple. Does the Church want to tell the world, “Jesus loves you, and so do we”? Or does it want to tell the world, “Jesus loves us no matter what, but Jesus hates you, because we deem it so”? The latter is the current message the world is getting: We pick and choose the laws we apply to ourselves, which are not the same as those we apply to the world. And I have news for you. It is not winning souls. It is pushing people further away. That causes them to push back even harder.

I wonder what would have happened if there had been no need to fight on equality? Would we need a special class to protect LGBTQ (in the few places we do?) Or for persons of color? Or for women? Those protections exist precisely because someone fought so hard against them. The Church is creating its own prophecy of persecution.

Society was first to recognize the equality of women, of persons of color, and now of LGBTQ. The Church has always been last. Must we keep dragging you kicking and screaming?

Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

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