Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 806536)

According to exit polls in 2008, Obama ended up with 20 percent of the conservative vote. Even in 2012, after four years of relentless conservative attacks, he still got 17 percent of the conservative vote, with 11 percent of Tea Party supporters saying they cast their ballots for Obama.

Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 806536)

In my opinion, Obama has governed as a moderate conservative—essentially as what used to be called a liberal Republican before all such people disappeared from the GOP.

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 806666)

I certainly have no use for "liberal Republican[s]"; and I am very glad that they have virtually "disappeared from the GOP."

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 806666)

I really do not know how this figure was derived.

But even if we were to take it at face value, that would mean that Barack Obama did not receive 89 percent of the vote from "Tea Party supporters," or 83 percent of "the conservative vote."

yes 20 is not 89

Although I do not agree with this assessment--I would say that Barack Obama has governed as a democratic socialist--I certainly have no use for "liberal Republican[s]"; and I am very glad that they have virtually "disappeared from the GOP."

Originally Posted by ShivaTD (Post 806671)

So you're basically saying that now that the positive element within the Republican Party that historically fought for racial and gender equality and opposed discrimination and oppression you're glad because now the Republican Party can really be the "Party of Angry White Men" that are willing to oppress anyone to retain White Male Supremacy in our social, economic, and political institutions.

GOT IT.

Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 806681)

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 806752)

If only what were true, exactly? That Barack Obama has governed as a democratic socialist? Or that liberal Republicans are nearly extinct?

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 806666)

I really do not know how this figure was derived.

But even if we were to take it at face value, that would mean that Barack Obama did not receive 89 percent of the vote from "Tea Party supporters," or 83 percent of "the conservative vote."



Although I do not agree with this assessment--I would say that Barack Obama has governed as a democratic socialist--I certainly have no use for "liberal Republican[s]"; and I am very glad that they have virtually "disappeared from the GOP."

Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 806014)

Spewing these lies and hate filled invective against Trump is wrong no matter what person does it. There is nothing dignified or Presidential in personally attacking Trump or claiming he is dishonest whIle ignoring Hillary's multiple felonies.:rolls

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 806751)

No.

That is what you said--not what I said.

But anyone who truly believes that most Republicans are bigots would doubtless interpret it that way...