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pjohns 03-09-2016 02:28 PM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 806176)
I don't know how anyone thinks Obama or Hillary are to the left. to give them a big benefit of the doubt I would say conservative lite. in truth they are more moderate conservative. :yes

My jaw simply dropped when I read this.

Hillary Clinton is attempting to run to the left of Bernie Sanders--who is an admitted democratic socialist.

And Barack Obama is (easily!) the most left-leaning president of my lifetime...

ShivaTD 03-09-2016 02:45 PM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
A sleeping giant? Can anyone actually be serious. We're talking a about a minority of a political party that's basically superior to the Libertarian Party that only has about 300,000 paid active members in the ranking of political parties. Republican Party membership is often cited to be about 30 million but the vast majority of those aren't paid members of the Republican Party. They're "registered voters" that want to vote in the Republican primaries and card carrying (paid) party members.

Of course even if we take that number of 30 million registed Republicans seriously it only represents about 15% of all registered voters in the United States.

A sleeping giant? The entire Republican Party more like a hamster in a herd of elephants.

jamesrage 03-09-2016 05:15 PM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by Kert (Post 805969)
She trashes Mitt pretty good.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srGlyFyghRk

Romney is right about Trump being a fraud and phony.But considering the fact he governed Massachusetts as a liberal and did a 180 to run for president its like the pot calling the kettle black.Its like the black panthers calling skinheads a bunch of racists. They are right but they have to no room to talk.

saltwn 03-09-2016 07:14 PM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 806306)
My jaw simply dropped when I read this.

Hillary Clinton is attempting to run to the left of Bernie Sanders--who is an admitted democratic socialist.

And Barack Obama is (easily!) the most left-leaning president of my lifetime...

their words pander to the left. they are certainly scared to go there

AZRWinger 03-10-2016 08:20 AM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by ShivaTD (Post 806311)
A sleeping giant? Can anyone actually be serious. We're talking a about a minority of a political party that's basically superior to the Libertarian Party that only has about 300,000 paid active members in the ranking of political parties. Republican Party membership is often cited to be about 30 million but the vast majority of those aren't paid members of the Republican Party. They're "registered voters" that want to vote in the Republican primaries and card carrying (paid) party members.

Of course even if we take that number of 30 million registed Republicans seriously it only represents about 15% of all registered voters in the United States.

A sleeping giant? The entire Republican Party more like a hamster in a herd of elephants.

According to Wiki party affiliation runs around 39% - 41% Republican among Americans. For perspective, Democrat affiliation runs 40% - 42% .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poli...in_U.S._states

The claim that the Republican party is just an insignificant minority is utter nonsense.

ShivaTD 03-10-2016 08:56 AM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by AZRWinger (Post 806448)
According to Wiki party affiliation runs around 39% - 41% Republican among Americans. For perspective, Democrat affiliation runs 40% - 42% .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poli...in_U.S._states

The claim that the Republican party is just an insignificant minority is utter nonsense.

I'm not sure where Wikipedia is getting it's information but based upon a January 2015 Gallup Poll 26% identify themselves as being Republicans, 30% identify themselves as being Democrats, and 43% identify themselves as being Independents.

In U.S., New Record 43% Are Political Independents

Trump has been securing about 35% of the Republican primary vote and that would only represent about 8.75% of the people but it's actually much less because of the extremely low turn-out for primary elections. As noted this small precentage really represents a hamster in a herd of elephants.

This isn't the real problem for Republicans of course. The real problem is that Trump only has a 33% approval rating and a whopping 60% disapproval rating. This is the worst disapproval rating of any presidential candidate in recent history and it alone would prevent Trump from ever being elected President (we can thank our lucky stars).

Gallup: Trump disapproval at record 60% | Washington Examiner

Hell, Trump couldn't even defeat President Obama if Obama was running again because Obama's sitting on a 50% approval rating this week.

Obama's Job Approval at Highest Level Since May 2013

As I've mentioned previously the GOP leadership is justifiably concerned about Trump possibly becoming the Republican candidate for president because he's a slam-dunk loser in the general election. It could be the greatest landslide loss in Republican history because Trump could actually lose in all 50 states because the vast majority of Americans, including a significant number of Republicans, can't stand him.

AZRWinger 03-10-2016 10:56 AM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by ShivaTD (Post 806452)
I'm not sure where Wikipedia is getting it's information but based upon a January 2015 Gallup Poll 26% identify themselves as being Republicans, 30% identify themselves as being Democrats, and 43% identify themselves as being Independents.

In U.S., New Record 43% Are Political Independents

Trump has been securing about 35% of the Republican primary vote and that would only represent about 8.75% of the people but it's actually much less because of the extremely low turn-out for primary elections. As noted this small precentage really represents a hamster in a herd of elephants.

This isn't the real problem for Republicans of course. The real problem is that Trump only has a 33% approval rating and a whopping 60% disapproval rating. This is the worst disapproval rating of any presidential candidate in recent history and it alone would prevent Trump from ever being elected President (we can thank our lucky stars).

Gallup: Trump disapproval at record 60% | Washington Examiner

Hell, Trump couldn't even defeat President Obama if Obama was running again because Obama's sitting on a 50% approval rating this week.

Obama's Job Approval at Highest Level Since May 2013

As I've mentioned previously the GOP leadership is justifiably concerned about Trump possibly becoming the Republican candidate for president because he's a slam-dunk loser in the general election. It could be the greatest landslide loss in Republican history because Trump could actually lose in all 50 states because the vast majority of Americans, including a significant number of Republicans, can't stand him.

The wiki numbers deal with the party affiliations same as your claim the Republican party is a small minority. Even the numbers you present show only a 4% gap between Republicans and Democrats. Despite the obvious defenestration of your claim Republicans are an insignificant minority.:o

Oh but wait, let's change the subject to Donald Trump and another baseless claim that since he gets 30 something percent of votes in the primary he is supported by only a minority of Republicans never mind that Trump is running in a field of up to 17 candidates.:rolls

Point out a false claim, you respond with another false claim.;)

jimbo 03-10-2016 12:14 PM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by ShivaTD (Post 806452)
I'm not sure where Wikipedia is getting it's information but based upon a January 2015 Gallup Poll 26% identify themselves as being Republicans, 30% identify themselves as being Democrats, and 43% identify themselves as being Independents.

In U.S., New Record 43% Are Political Independents

Trump has been securing about 35% of the Republican primary vote and that would only represent about 8.75% of the people but it's actually much less because of the extremely low turn-out for primary elections. As noted this small precentage really represents a hamster in a herd of elephants.

This isn't the real problem for Republicans of course. The real problem is that Trump only has a 33% approval rating and a whopping 60% disapproval rating. This is the worst disapproval rating of any presidential candidate in recent history and it alone would prevent Trump from ever being elected President (we can thank our lucky stars).

Gallup: Trump disapproval at record 60% | Washington Examiner

Hell, Trump couldn't even defeat President Obama if Obama was running again because Obama's sitting on a 50% approval rating this week.

Obama's Job Approval at Highest Level Since May 2013

As I've mentioned previously the GOP leadership is justifiably concerned about Trump possibly becoming the Republican candidate for president because he's a slam-dunk loser in the general election. It could be the greatest landslide loss in Republican history because Trump could actually lose in all 50 states because the vast majority of Americans, including a significant number of Republicans, can't stand him.

Hillary doesn't fare all that much better.

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It's a long way to go before November, but Hillary is working hard to catch up.

BTW, Obama won't be running in 2016.

pjohns 03-10-2016 01:43 PM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 806370)
their words pander to the left. they are certainly scared to go there

Well, Barack Obama certainly does not appear to be "scared to go there."

In fact, he has already gone there...

saltwn 03-10-2016 02:14 PM

Re: Judge Jeanine: Mitt Romney awoke a sleeping giant
 
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Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 806532)
Well, Barack Obama certainly does not appear to be "scared to go there."

In fact, he has already gone there...

According to exit polls in 2008, Obama ended up with 20 percent of the conservative vote. Even in 2012, after four years of relentless conservative attacks, he still got 17 percent of the conservative vote, with 11 percent of Tea Party supporters saying they cast their ballots for Obama.

prominent conservatives and Republicans who were openly supporting Obama in 2008:

Ken Duberstein, Ronald Reagan’s chief of staff; Charles Fried, Reagan’s solicitor general; Ken Adelman, director of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency for Reagan; Jeffrey Hart, longtime senior editor of National Review; Colin Powell, Reagan’s national security adviser and secretary of state for George W. Bush; and Scott McClellan, Bush’s press secretary. There were many others as well.

According to exit polls in 2008, Obama ended up with 20 percent of the conservative vote. Even in 2012, after four years of relentless conservative attacks, he still got 17 percent of the conservative vote, with 11 percent of Tea Party supporters saying they cast their ballots for Obama.

They were not wrong. In my opinion, Obama has governed as a moderate conservative—essentially as what used to be called a liberal Republican before all such people disappeared from the GOP. He has been conservative to exactly the same degree that Richard Nixon basically governed as a moderate liberal, something no conservative would deny today. (Ultra-leftist Noam Chomsky recently called Nixon “the last liberal president.”)

Another early indication of Obama’s hawkishness was naming his rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Hillary Clinton, as secretary of state. During the campaign, Clinton ran well to his right on foreign policy, so much so that she earned the grudging endorsement of prominent neoconservatives such as Bill Kristol and David Brooks.

Obama, Kristol told the Washington Post in August 2007, “is becoming the antiwar candidate, and Hillary Clinton is becoming the responsible Democrat who could become commander in chief in a post-9/11 world.” Writing in the New York Times on February 5, 2008, Brooks praised Clinton for hanging tough on Iraq “through the dark days of 2005.”

Right-wing columnist Ann Coulter found Clinton more acceptable on national-security policy than even the eventual Republican nominee, Senator McCain.

After Obama named Clinton secretary of state, there was “a deep sigh” of relief among Republicans throughout Washington, according to reporting by The Daily Beast’s John Batchelor. He noted that not a single Republican voiced any public criticism of her appointment.

By 2011, Republicans were so enamored with Clinton’s support for their policies that Dick Cheney even suggested publicly that she run against Obama in 2012...Obama Is a Republican | The American Conservative

and here's more if you care to take the time to read some of it:

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ervative/?_r=0

and in what Obama said vs what he actually did: Obama the Conservative | Tracking Obama's abandoning of the progressive agenda, and the disconnect between his words and deeds.


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