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Old 08-22-2014, 12:13 PM
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Default The Insiders: Is Obama acting like a former president?

Just in the wee hours of this morning, in another thread, I wrote that the president has an "I'm retired as an actual president and just going through the motions" routine...

I'm not alone in seeing this...It's so obvious that even staunch Obama defender The Washington Post sees it...

The Insiders: Is Obama acting like a former president?

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It looks like we have officially entered the world of the post-Obama presidency. President Obama’s recent speeches and remarks make it obvious that he is not making any serious effort to govern or to drive world events. Except for covering the basics, he seems to have taken something like an early retirement.

We can look back at his West Point speech, which may go down in history as his first post-presidency speech, and the endpoint of an Obama foreign policy. During that speech, the president’s reflections on his foreign policy consisted of making excuses and trying to explain himself instead of conveying any forward-looking policy.

In a campaign style event last week, the president revealed even more of a state of mind that suggests he has checked out. He told the audience that he is “finding lately that I just want to say what’s on my mind.” That sounds more like an idle comment from a retired, unengaged former president than something a president in command would say. Obama then went on to petulantly declare that the reason for his failures is because Republicans “don’t do anything except block me. And call me names.” Can you imagine any other president in our history making that excuse? Remember, President Ronald Reagan had a divided government every day he was in office, but he still managed to work with Congress to pass major legislation. He certainly never whined about being called names by his critics. Neither did Bush 41, Clinton or Bush 43.

And just yesterday, the president made a speech declaring that he would be issuing more executive orders on immigration because “our system is so broken, so unclear, that folks don’t know what the rules are.” Was he talking about Obamacare? Anyway, his statement was ironic coming from the man who treats the law as mere guidance. As I’ve said before, an executive-order presidency actually suits Obama, especially in his state of early retirement. He doesn’t have to convince anyone of anything; his staff writes the orders and he can just sign them and pivot to making a speech in front of an adoring crowd.

Finally, also yesterday at a goodbye party for the White House pastry chef, President Obama nonchalantly said that maybe his chef was putting crack in the White House pies.That quip was met with laughter and obviously some thought it was delightful, but I thought it was in stunningly bad form. Our president now makes jokes about consuming crack? Really? I guess it’s just what’s on his mind.

Even some of the president’s original supporters here at home will tell you privately they are befuddled by the president’s actions and they have given up on expecting anything good. The latest example is the Billings Gazette’s reversal on their endorsement of Obama in 2008, saying “it’s the number of bungled or blown policies in the Obama administration which lead us to believe Obama has earned every bit of an abysmal approval rating.” Even those who endorsed the president feel compelled to say their endorsement is no longer warranted. The disappointment with this president is rampant.

It is one thing to be a lame duck and struggle to be effective; it’s another to just quit. It’s alarming to think this president has two more years in office. Let’s all hope for the best.
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Remember, President Ronald Reagan had a divided government every day he was in office, but he still managed to work with Congress to pass major legislation. He certainly never whined about being called names by his critics. Neither did Bush 41, Clinton or Bush 43.
Talk about comparing apples to oranges...

Under Reagan, he had to deal with Democrat partisanship.
Under Obama, he has to deal with Republican partisanship.

The divide has grown significantly since Reagan, and the majority of the divide growth has been on the Republican side.

U.S. Congress: Partisan, polarized and unpopular

When Dems under Bush fought back and stopped his retirement change initiatives, I don't recall them denying that it was THEM who was doing it.

With Repubs under Obama, Repubs fight back and blame Obama for their refusal to compromise.
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Obama does look like he's packed it in and just goin' through the motions now. In a way I don't blame him. His history legacy is already cemented and there's zero chance it'll improve. The harm and embarrassment he's done to this country is not forgivable and will take decades to fix. May as well just go through the motions and act more like a jackass and amateur than he's already done.

Sure, there'll be the usual Obama and liberal defenders who'll claim he was a fan-f*cking-tastic POTUS and all criticism directed at him was fueled by partisanship and racism, but history doesn't lie. Obama will ultimately go down as one of the five worst presidents to serve this country. Easy. No contest.
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Based on what? I mean if you have to name what Obama has done that makes him the worst what would those things be? Any specifics?
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Obama does look like he's packed it in and just goin' through the motions now. In a way I don't blame him. His history legacy is already cemented and there's zero chance it'll improve. The harm and embarrassment he's done to this country is not forgivable and will take decades to fix. May as well just go through the motions and act more like a jackass and amateur than he's already done.

Sure, there'll be the usual Obama and liberal defenders who'll claim he was a fan-f*cking-tastic POTUS and all criticism directed at him was fueled by partisanship and racism, but history doesn't lie. Obama will ultimately go down as one of the five worst presidents to serve this country. Easy. No contest.
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Obama, Outraged Over Beheading, Vows To Remain On Course”

Immediately after making that statement, he proves it was true:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...electedIndex=0



Yep! Directly from the news briefing to the golf club at Martha's Vineyard. Is that Presidential, or what?

I've been asked not to refer to him as President Fosdick,but hey canwe go back to calling him President Erkel?
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The rights newest narrative. Now they will all repeat it like parrots.
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Obama, Outraged Over Beheading, Vows To Remain On Course”

Immediately after making that statement, he proves it was true:





Yep! Directly from the news briefing to the golf club at Martha's Vineyard. Is that Presidential, or what?

I've been asked not to refer to him as President Fosdick,but hey canwe go back to calling him President Erkel?
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The rights newest narrative. Now they will all repeat it like parrots.
It coming from the left now also. I think that picture is from the NYTimes.
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It coming from the left now also. I think that picture is from the NYTimes.
Everyone at the NY times agrees?
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The graph correlates with the rise of RW media. Just sayin'

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Talk about comparing apples to oranges...

Under Reagan, he had to deal with Democrat partisanship.
Under Obama, he has to deal with Republican partisanship.

The divide has grown significantly since Reagan, and the majority of the divide growth has been on the Republican side.

U.S. Congress: Partisan, polarized and unpopular

When Dems under Bush fought back and stopped his retirement change initiatives, I don't recall them denying that it was THEM who was doing it.

With Repubs under Obama, Repubs fight back and blame Obama for their refusal to compromise.
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Obama does look like he's packed it in and just goin' through the motions now. In a way I don't blame him. His history legacy is already cemented and there's zero chance it'll improve. The harm and embarrassment he's done to this country is not forgivable and will take decades to fix. May as well just go through the motions and act more like a jackass and amateur than he's already done.

Sure, there'll be the usual Obama and liberal defenders who'll claim he was a fan-f*cking-tastic POTUS and all criticism directed at him was fueled by partisanship and racism, but history doesn't lie. Obama will ultimately go down as one of the five worst presidents to serve this country. Easy. No contest.
It is an interesting observation that he has given up trying to govern. If that is so, and it continues along the path he is following, failing to take action on impending policies and laws, I believe a case will be made for impeachment before he is allowed to leave office. Wouldn't that be a kick in the head? Impeaching for omission to act?

Than there is the strange fact that he still maintains a plus 40% approval rating as President, near the 50% range, even after six years of bungling governance. The only requirement of becoming President, is you be native born American, and 35 years of age. We depend on the media to do the vetting process - and in this man's case, they through it under the rug from Day 1, when they buried Reverend Wright, his racist Chicago preacher and his ideas. Obama replaced him with Al Sharpton as his ground strategist, who he wanted nothing to do with in 2008's election run. Once elected, one hopes a President will learn in office, most did.

Unfortunately, experience, leadership skills, negotiation skill set, the ability to close a deal, foreign relations experience, all were lacking in this man when he took office in an euphoric mood, that quickly went down the drain, and wasted away.

He ended the reign of George The 1st, the Boy King (had to give the late Robin Williams a plug here), and should have been an excellent President. I doubt if anybody in January 2008 believed he would tilt the country so far left, stir up the race card and end up where he is today, playing golf; hobnobbing with the Hollywood wealthy, and jet setting all over the world, instead of getting his azz up to Capital Hill and demanding, like Abraham Lincoln did, a fair and impartial hearing.

It would have taken a bold initiative in public relations for Mr. Obama to get up each morning at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and ride the 3-miles up to Capital Hill and knock on the door to the Speaker's Office, requesting coffee and conversation about working together. But what an "optic" that would have been. The American people would have seen a President ready, willing and able to govern, being shut out by Congress, instead of the two departments of the government conducting business through press releases and appearances. Harry S. Truman went to Capital Hill regularly to "strike a blow for liberty" as he referred to his two shots of Jack Daniels with Congressional leadership in the afternoon's. Keep kicking the damn door, and eventually, it would have caved in. It would have been a superb public relations maneuver and probably negated the House hostility toward him.

This man should have been an excellent President. He still has two years remaining. We are still facing three huge crisis in the world where he could shine in foreign affairs and save his legacy.

The ebola crisis in Africa, an area of the world where former President Bush, Jr. has a huge influence through his HIV charity, credited to have saved millions.

The open border immigration crisis in the American Southwest, where he is ignoring the problem and letting Republican governor's take the lead in dealing with a huge problem.

Finally, now, the Islamic State and the Islamic State of Iraq-Syria (ISIS), the most significant military threat in the Middle East in history. He has a problem and a significant opportunity here.

America is frustrated, angry, willing and demanding he lead against this fanatical enemy, much more powerful than Al Quida ever even hoped to be. We are a strange country, capable of spending billions on such useless trivia as a cartoon Disney mouse. But, when angered, that big wide American grin and generosity we show the world, hides a dangerous and lethal attitude, and the ability to quickly bury our differences to destroy the common enemy.

Japan, Italy and Germany found that out. Korea and Vietnam saw us sacrifice 100,000 of our soldiers, and Iraq and the Middle East have seen us kick their azz twice, while still fighting in Afghanistan against terrorism.

The WTC, 9/11 attack united us against Islamic terrorism. Mr Obama has the opportunity, the power, hopefully the willingness to pull the trigger on fanatical Islam, and it is necessary, these people are an enormous threat to world peace. Listen to the generals, notify Congress, he doesn't need a Congressional approval, those politicians listen to their home district folks, and those at home are demanding action now.

I doubt if any of us didn't know, at the start, that his sympathies would, in fact lean toward the black community, but he hasn't really done much for them but stir up hatred. Travon and Brown were not that important in the grand scheme of things a President has on his plate daily. Mr. Obama still has a chance to come out on top, and put America back in its leadership role he has squandered away because he hasn't learned to govern in six years. Perhaps he will at this late date still because the threats out there are real, and more important than golf at Pebble Beach.......STFN
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