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Old 08-13-2014, 12:23 AM
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Once again...an article that tells us what Rush said except for the fact that he didn't say it...

(What?!?!...There's audio an everything!!!!!)...

You heard but you did not listen (to phrase Hannibal Lecter)...

Here's an article taken directly from Cracked magazine's site...I used a lot of it because it's JUST THAT GOOD...Go thre and read the whole thing...

(And "yes"...might have even struck a nerve)...

Warning...A couple of cursewords...

Robin Williams and Why Funny People Kill Themselves

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You ever have that funny friend, the class-clown type, who one day just stopped being funny around you? Did it make you think they were depressed? Because it's far more likely that, in reality, that was the first time they were comfortable enough around you to drop the act.

The ones who kill themselves, well, they're funny right up to the end.


By now you know that Robin Williams has committed suicide, but I'm not here to talk about him. He's gone, and you're still here, and suicidal thoughts are so common among our readers and writers that our message board has a hidden section where moderators can coordinate responses to suicide threats. And in case you're wondering, no, that's not a joke -- I remember the first time John tracked down a guy's location and got an ambulance dispatched to his house. Then we all sat there, at 4 in the morning, waiting to hear if they got there in time (they did).

Because Cracked is driven by an army of aspiring comedy writer freelancers, the message boards are full of a certain personality type. And while I don't know what percentage of funny people suffer from depression, from a rough survey of the ones I know and work with, I'd say it's approximately "all of them." So when I hear some naive soul say, "Wow, how could a wacky guy like [insert famous dead comedian here] just [insert method of early self-destruction here]? He was always joking around and having a great time!" my only response is a blank stare.

That's honestly the equivalent of "How can that cow be dead? She had to be healthy, because these hamburgers we made from her are delicious!"

So I don't know Robin Williams' situation, and I don't need to -- I can go scoop up an armload of examples without leaving my chair. As one of the head guys at Cracked, I'm surrounded by literally hundreds of comedy writers, and I inhabit the body of one. Kristi Harrison recently wrote about the psychological dark side of being funny, and was speaking from experience. Or, here's John Cheese talking about his recent adventures on antidepressants. Here's Mark Hill on his depression, here's Dan O'Brien on his social anxiety, here's Tom Reimann on his, and here's C. Coville on the same. Here's Mara Wilson on having an anxiety disorder, here's Felix Clay on regret, here's Gladstone on emotional trauma, and Adam Brown on almost dying from cough syrup addiction. Those are just the ones off the top of my head. You get the idea.

Now do you want me to tell you how many messages/comments/emails we get from fans telling a writer to "kill yourself" because said writer wrote a joke they didn't like? When I ban them, they always act confused as to why.

"What, you're saying Cracked writers are a bunch of tortured literary geniuses? You write boner jokes in list form, for Christ's sake!"

Yeah, and Chris Farley just made wacky slapstick movies about a fat guy who falls down a lot, right up until he stopped his own heart with a drug cocktail. The medium has nothing to do with it -- comedy, of any sort, is usually a byproduct of a tumor that grows on the human soul. If you know a really funny person who isn't tortured and broken inside, I'd say A) they've just successfully hidden it from you, B) their ****ed-uppedness is buried so deep down that even they're in denial about it, or C) they're just some kind of a mystical creature I can't begin to understand. I'm not saying anything science doesn't already know, by the way. Find a comedian, and you'll usually find somebody who had a ****ty childhood.

Here's how it works for most of us, as far as I can tell. I'll even put it in list form, because who gives a **** at this point:

1. At an early age, you start hating yourself. Often it's because you were abused, or just grew up in a broken home, or were rejected socially, or maybe you were just weird or fat or ... whatever. You're not like the other kids, the other kids don't seem to like you, and you can usually detect that by age 5 or so.

2. At some point, usually at a very young age, you did something that got a laugh from the room. You made a joke or fell down or farted, and you realized for the first time that you could get a positive reaction that way. Not genuine love or affection, mind you, just a reaction -- one that is a step up from hatred and a thousand steps up from invisibility. One you could control.

3. You soon learned that being funny builds a perfect, impenetrable wall around you -- a buffer that keeps anyone from getting too close and realizing how much you suck. The more you hate yourself, the stronger you need to make the barrier and the further you have to push people away. In other words, the better you have to be at comedy.

4. In your formative years, you wind up creating a second, false you -- a clown that can go out and represent you, outside the barrier. The clown is always joking, always "on," always drawing all of the attention in order to prevent anyone from poking away at the barrier and finding the real person behind it. The clown is the life of the party, the classroom joker, the guy up on stage -- as different from the "real" you as possible. Again, the goal is to create distance.

You do it because if people hate the clown, who cares? That's not the real you. So you're protected.

But the side effect is that if people love the clown ... well, you know the truth. You know how different it'd be if they met the real you.

I get a dozen messages a week from people telling me they love me, I get a few a month from people saying they want to meet me in person. You know, kind of like how they watch an episode of The Walking Dead and decide they want to live in a zombie apocalypse. Trust me, kid, you wouldn't like it.

But there's more. The jokes that keep the crowd happy -- and keep the people around you at bay -- come from inside you, and are dug painfully out of your own guts. You expose and examine your own insecurities, flaws, fears -- all of that stuff makes the best fuel. So, Robin Williams joked about addiction -- you know, the same addiction that pretty much killed him. Chris Farley's whole act was based on how fat he was -- the thing that had tortured and humiliated him since childhood. So think of my clown analogy above, only imagine the clown feeds on your blood.

I keep mentioning Chris Farley for a reason -- in the end, he was so alone that he was hiring prostitutes just to hang out with him.

In this case, the clown was a hilarious fat guy playing a Beverly Hills Ninja. Back behind the wall, the real person was a scared, lonely, awkward fat kid who couldn't even pay someone to hold his hand when he died. "Don't leave me."
Now whether you agree with him or not, Rush was making an analogy that the Left (generalizing) create that same "false you" that comedians do...

They say they want to change the world and save the planet and all of that other fun stuff, but its nothing but a ruse because it hides their TRUE self...

The article in the OP is bullsh*t...Rush said no such thing about a "Leftist worldview" killing Robin Williams...

He saying that Robin Williams killed himself because he ended up in the same place that people that have a "Leftist worldview" end up...Depressed and leading a false life...

Now as stated, you can go ahead and disagree with it all you want...But when the starting point is a lie, the results will be, too...
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Your post makes me feel like a twit redd.
Perhaps I didn't understand the full message from Rush, but I still think he's an asssssssssssssssssssss.

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Your post makes me feel like a twit redd.
Perhaps I didn't understand the full message from Rush, but I still think he's an asssssssssssssssssssss.

I've always hated Rush...In fact, I hate all pundits pretty much the same...

What I wrote wasn't to defend Rush...If anyone thinks his comparison is stupid, I got no problems with it...

But if you're going to bash someone, do it for the right reasons and not the made up ones...

For years, I've called it the "Michael Moore" technique...

"I have ten reasons to hate someone, but that won't make the public jump on board with me, so I'll make up thirty more reasons and the public can hate for them; even if they're lies, it's Mission Accomplished"...

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I've always hated Rush...In fact, I hate all pundits pretty much the same...

What I wrote wasn't to defend Rush...If anyone thinks his comparison is stupid, I got no problems with it...

But if you're going to bash someone, do it for the right reasons and not the made up ones...

For years, I've called it the "Michael Moore" technique...

"I have ten reasons to hate someone, but that won't make the public jump on board with me, so I'll make up thirty more reasons and the public can hate for them; even if they're lies, it's Mission Accomplished"...

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I've always hated Rush...
I don't "hate" the man. And I very often agree with his political-philosophy positions.

Still, he is a bit too bombastic for my tastes. (I much prefer the style of George Will; and he is at least equally cerebral--perhaps more so.)
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Well now that we debunked this BS story what are we gonna do now?

Surfing pig it is!

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What? You didn't attack Obama?
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The left's rabid hatred for Rush Limbaugh would be downright funny, if it were not for the fact that it betrays the left's contempt for the American people in general--not merely for Mr. Limbaugh.

Put another way, I would imagine that most leftists would simply not care what Mr. Limbaugh might think about anything, except for their condescending view of the American public--which (supposedly) cannot think for itself, but merely marches in lockstep with more prominent conservatives.
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If you have to explain it it wasn't funny
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Robin Williams made a living by lifting people up.
Limbaugh makes a living by tearing people down.

It earns Limbaugh a paycheck but that says something both about himself and the people who pay him to act that way.
If you look at this situation and all you can think about is the dollar signs?
Rush does say some dumb sh*it, but so does everybody. I partially credit him for giving me the guts to risk everything and start a business. What I hear most from Rush is how people are fundamentally exceptional, and have the ability to do what ever they want in life. Daily decisions and a belief in yourself trumps all obstacles. That's what I hear most from him. I find that the vast majority of liberals just listen to what other people say about Rush, and form their opinion from that. I think Mikey listens to Rush a little, but that is just so he can yell the radio.
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I don't "hate" the man. And I very often agree with his political-philosophy positions.

Still, he is a bit too bombastic for my tastes. (I much prefer the style of George Will; and he is at least equally cerebral--perhaps more so.)
Most people do not understand Rush's Sarcastic / Facetious humor. He will say things tongue in cheek, and the lefties will think he is serious, and come UNGLUED!
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