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Some Washington & Lee University law students want the university to live by its honor code and stop glorifying its namesake by acknowledging the dishonorable side of both Robert E. Lee and W&L.

Seven multiracial students, calling themselves The Committee, have demanded that W&L remove the flags of the Confederacy from the campus and Lee Chapel, acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery, recognize Martin Luther King Day on the undergraduate campus and ban neo-Confederates from marching across campus to the chapel on Lee-Jackson Day.

If their demands are not met by Sept. 1, they will engage in civil disobedience
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F*ck them. Let them engage in 'civil disobedience'. Why do they think anyone would give a sh*t? It's like a toddler saying they're going to hold their breath.
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Washington and Lee is a private university and the Lee is named after Robert E. Lee. They have had Confederate Flags in the school since it opened. Why would anyone want to go to this school if they had a problem with that flag? Pure stupidity and just an excuse to cause trouble.
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F*ck them. Let them engage in 'civil disobedience'. Why do they think anyone would give a sh*t? It's like a toddler saying they're going to hold their breath.
They think that someone will give what you suggest because the school will inevitably fold.
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Reading the article it becomes clear that this is the work of liberal professors who found a couple of brain dead students to stir up trouble. These students knew before hand what W&L was before they went, if they don't like the school now they should leave.
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Reading the article it becomes clear that this is the work of liberal professors who found a couple of brain dead students to stir up trouble. These students knew before hand what W&L was before they went, if they don't like the school now they should leave.
After he surrendered the Confederate's Army of Northern Virginia at Appomattox Courthouse, Virginia, in 1865, essentially ending the American Civil War (please no stupid revisionist comments about the War of Northern Aggression), General Lee retired to Richmond, Virginia, where he was besieged by the famous photographer Matthew Brady, for a sitting photograph. Commenting "How can I pose for a photograph when the whole world's eyes are upon me" Lee steadfastly refused, but public pressure produced an excellent photograph of him in his Confederate uniform, on the porch of his Richmond home (his Lee mansion home atop what is today Arlington National Cemetery across the river from Washington, D.C. was confiscated and never returned by the U.S. government.

The photograph included his, according to General Longstreet, his aide de camp, the prissy Walter Taylor. Lee believed that Gawd had decided the outcome of the Civil War, that the South was defeated by the higher idea, and although horrible disappointed, his faith carried him through those tough days after Appomattox. He was later offered the Presidency of a small, liberal arts college in the hometown of his famous general, Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, in Lexington, Kentucky, home of VMI, which he accepted, and maintained until his death at age seventy of heart failure.

Buried in the chapel of what was renamed Washington-Lee University in his honor, it remains an excellent, small liberal arts college in this day and age, General Lee is honored with burial in the crypt in the chapel, and across the street, under the shade of a large tree, the skeletal remains of his famous war horse Traveler, are also buried. Southern children, visiting Lexington, Virginia to view the graves of Lee, and "Stonewall" Jackson, in the Lexington cemetery, routinely carry apple slices and sugar lumps, which they sprinkle on that lawn as "treats for Traveler" as traditions die hard in the Old Dominion of Virginia.

Washington-Lee is a private college, with as much tradition and history regarding the American Civil War, General Lee, and his history, as the Confederate Museum in Richmond, Virginia, another private facility, and flying the old Confederate Stars and Bars there is both natural and acceptable. Any student who decides to attend that college should accept the Confederate flags (property of the U.S. Government per the surrender terms at Appomattox Courthouse in 1865), as being flown to honor General Lee, Jackson, and the brave men they led in battle for an idea, that although mistaken, they gave, in Lincoln's words, the "last full measure" - their lives - for its sake. Removing Southern traditions from this school would be unacceptable.

I fully understand the African-American population's anger for flying this flag above public facilities like the state capital building in Columbia, South Carolina, which a major tourism boycott got removed, however, at a private institution like Washington & Lee College, they are totally appropriate, part of American the school's tradition and history, and perfectly natural...STFN
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Washington and Lee is a private university and the Lee is named after Robert E. Lee. They have had Confederate Flags in the school since it opened. Why would anyone want to go to this school if they had a problem with that flag? Pure stupidity and just an excuse to cause trouble.
Second question. Why would a teacher who knowingly sat through an interview in a room with those flags take the job and then proceed to tear down the school?

Unless, of course, pure stupidity and an excuse to cause trouble.

Those professors should be fired.
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After he surrendered the Confederate's Army of Northern Virginia at Appomattox Courthouse, Virginia, in 1865, essentially ending the American Civil War (please no stupid revisionist comments about the War of Northern Aggression), General Lee retired to Richmond, Virginia, where he was besieged by the famous photographer Matthew Brady, for a sitting photograph. Commenting "How can I pose for a photograph when the whole world's eyes are upon me" Lee steadfastly refused, but public pressure produced an excellent photograph of him in his Confederate uniform, on the porch of his Richmond home (his Lee mansion home atop what is today Arlington National Cemetery across the river from Washington, D.C. was confiscated and never returned by the U.S. government.

The photograph included his, according to General Longstreet, his aide de camp, the prissy Walter Taylor. Lee believed that Gawd had decided the outcome of the Civil War, that the South was defeated by the higher idea, and although horrible disappointed, his faith carried him through those tough days after Appomattox. He was later offered the Presidency of a small, liberal arts college in the hometown of his famous general, Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, in Lexington, Kentucky, home of VMI, which he accepted, and maintained until his death at age seventy of heart failure.

Buried in the chapel of what was renamed Washington-Lee University in his honor, it remains an excellent, small liberal arts college in this day and age, General Lee is honored with burial in the crypt in the chapel, and across the street, under the shade of a large tree, the skeletal remains of his famous war horse Traveler, are also buried. Southern children, visiting Lexington, Virginia to view the graves of Lee, and "Stonewall" Jackson, in the Lexington cemetery, routinely carry apple slices and sugar lumps, which they sprinkle on that lawn as "treats for Traveler" as traditions die hard in the Old Dominion of Virginia.

Washington-Lee is a private college, with as much tradition and history regarding the American Civil War, General Lee, and his history, as the Confederate Museum in Richmond, Virginia, another private facility, and flying the old Confederate Stars and Bars there is both natural and acceptable. Any student who decides to attend that college should accept the Confederate flags (property of the U.S. Government per the surrender terms at Appomattox Courthouse in 1865), as being flown to honor General Lee, Jackson, and the brave men they led in battle for an idea, that although mistaken, they gave, in Lincoln's words, the "last full measure" - their lives - for its sake. Removing Southern traditions from this school would be unacceptable.

I fully understand the African-American population's anger for flying this flag above public facilities like the state capital building in Columbia, South Carolina, which a major tourism boycott got removed, however, at a private institution like Washington & Lee College, they are totally appropriate, part of American the school's tradition and history, and perfectly natural...STFN
Sorry, the revision was the myth that there was a civil war, and that's an absurdity. People who think otherwise are invited to explain the Confederacy's plans for the governance of Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine and New Jersey, or starters, since such initiatives would be required for there to have been a "civil war." Such nonsense. I wish more of my countrymen had the courage to face up to what the War of Northern Aggression actually was, a colossal act of barbarous group stupidity leavened with individuals and acts of nobility, and commemorated with a rich, lustrous varnish of lies.

Please don't tell me that I shouldn't correct people when they use the term "civil war," for what was no such thing.
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Second question. Why would a teacher who knowingly sat through an interview in a room with those flags take the job and then proceed to tear down the school?

Unless, of course, pure stupidity and an excuse to cause trouble.

Those professors should be fired.
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