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Old 07-01-2008, 02:50 PM
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The only obstacle between Barack Obama and the presidency is the mountain of smears that will no doubt come his way. That’s the narrative that Obama supporters — and his swooning chroniclers in the mainstream media — would have us believe.

Obama himself set up a website, fighthesmears.com, correcting some e-mail chain letters that allege he “can’t produce his birth certificate,” is “secretly a Muslim” and that he “won’t say the Pledge of Allegiance.” In May, Newsweek published a cover story confirming the Obama campaign’s fears, declaring that “the Republican Party has been successfully scaring voters since 1968.”

Writers Evan Thomas and Richard Wolfe concluded that the 2008 presidential election will be no different. “It is a sure bet that the GOP will try to paint Obama as ‘the other’ — as a haughty black intellectual who has Muslim roots (Obama is a Christian) and hangs around with America-haters.”

But has it been a “sure bet?”

Not really. Thus far, no one with any serious affiliation to John McCain's campaign has resorted to the alleged “scare” tactics in which Republicans — and, apparently, only Republicans — have been perfecting since Richard Nixon was first elected. On the contrary, if the past few months have showed us anything, it’s that the Obama campaign is the one dealing in crude smears.

There have been only two incidents in which people officially associated with McCain have done anything approaching what Thomas and Wolfe predicted those dastardly, conniving Republicans would inevitably do. In February, a conservative talk radio host speaking at a McCain rally made reference to “Barack Hussein Obama.” McCain immediately condemned the statement, leading the embittered and embarrassed professional yacker to complain that McCain “threw me under the bus.” The only other smear-worthy episode occurred in March, when the McCain campaign suspended a low-level aide who provided a link on his Twitter account to a video featuring the rants of Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Heavy stuff, to be sure.

Contrast the absence of “smears” from the McCain camp with some of the outlandish remarks made by high-ranking Obama supporters. In April, West Virginia Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV said that because McCain “was a fighter pilot, who dropped laser-guided missiles from 35,000 feet,” and “was long gone when they hit,” the Arizona senator who spent five and a half years in a Vietcong tiger cage having his arms repeatedly broken didn’t really understand the carnage of war. “What happened when [the missiles] get to the ground?” Rockefeller asked a crowd at an Obama rally. “He doesn’t know. You have to care about the lives of people. McCain never gets into those issues.” That the great-grandson of John D. Rockefeller would impugn the wartime experience of John McCain is especially rich, given that the only “battle” Rockefeller has seen is when he hunts wild game at his 80-acre ranch in Jackson Hole, Wyo.

Rockefeller’s smear was the first salvo in a pattern of attacks meant to insinuate that McCain’s Vietnam experience not only shouldn’t count as meaningful “experience,” but rendered him psychologically unfit for presidential office. In May, Iowa Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin said of McCain, “Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous.” Over the weekend, retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark said that McCain is “untested and untried,” and elaborated that, “I don't think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.” Clark, you may remember, ran for president in 2004 on his record as a career military officer, so his comment, which he has not retracted, was not just morally offensive but self-discrediting.

The smears didn’t stop there. On Monday, Obama foreign policy adviser Rand Beers unfavorably compared McCain’s POW experience with “the members of the Senate who were in the ground forces or who were ashore in Vietnam,” and who “have a very different view of Vietnam and the cost…than John McCain does because he was in isolation essentially for many of those years and did not experience the turmoil here or the challenges that were involved for those of us who served in Vietnam during the Vietnam War.”

It’s curious how anyone could argue that a man with such visceral understanding of the capacity for what America’s enemies will do to our men and women in uniform doesn’t fully appreciate the cost of war. But even more troubling is the unmistakable pattern of these smears, all of them unsubtly alleging that McCain is an unhinged, mentally unstable warmonger who would deploy soldiers capriciously because he hasn’t truly experienced the horrors of ground battle. Indeed, the claims of these four men — and the short period of time in which they were all uttered — are so similar in tone that one would be foolish not to at least consider the possibility they were coordinated by the Obama campaign.

Nevertheless, the fears of Obama supporters that their candidate lies eternally vulnerable to GOP smears exists only in their fevered imaginations. The evidence of dirty Republican tricks has been utterly absent this campaign season. And if anyone has tried to smear Barack Obama in the way that Thomas, Wolfe and other Democratic partisans allege, it was not the Republican National Committee, but rather Hillary Rodham Clinton and her surrogates. In February, the Drudge Report claimed that the Clinton campaign circulated photos of Obama in a traditional East African turban and robe, with the message that the images showed him “dressed.” Asked if there was any truth to the smear that Obama is a Muslim, she infamously replied, “As far as I know,” it wasn’t the case. After the Indiana and North Carolina primaries, she said the results showed that "Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again.”

The belief that “the Republican Party has been successfully scaring voters since 1968” is a comforting salve for Democrats. After all, it’s much easier for them to demonize conservatives than consider that the reason for their electoral defeats may lie with liberal ideas. Please don’t take that as a "smear.”
Absolutely beautiful!...

Obama has shielded himself with the "I'll be a victim of GOP tactics" card while his minions attack McCain unfettered...Then Obama can publicly distance himself from them...just as he's done with multiple advisors, his friends in jail, his VP selection team, and his spiritual mentors...and everyone can say "Wow!...What an upstanding guy he is!"...
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Absolutely beautiful!...

Obama has shielded himself with the "I'll be a victim of GOP tactics" card while his minions attack McCain unfettered...Then Obama can publicly distance himself from them...just as he's done with multiple advisors, his friends in jail, his VP selection team, and his spiritual mentors...and everyone can say "Wow!...What an upstanding guy he is!"...
Has McCain really been attacked. I haven't heard anything about McCain that He or I didn't expect. No big dramas.
These guys have tried to keep it pretty clean. McCain has done plenty to challenge Obamas patriotism. In fact he has been doing it for a while. Why do you think he has tried to make out like he is challenging Obama to visit the troops. Why? Because he thinks Obama will learn something he can't learn at home? No its because he wants to act superior because he has been there more often. McCain is no babe in the woods here. He knows how to stick it in and turn it. Even an antique gun will shoot you dead.
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It is called politics. looool If your greedy and don't care about much except yourself you do good. But my money is on the Obama crowd. Mccain has failed to much in many areas even with his long years in the game.
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Yup if you accurately quote a democrat with plenty of context it is an attack. It is so unfair to tell people what they said. Who their friends, mentors and supporters are is also an unfair attack. Not to mention if they were involved with terrorists, criminals, or racists. And above all don't tell anyone their name.

You liberals want a fair attack on Mccain.......look up Keating 5.
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I have other problems with McCain. One of my major complaints is his phony maverick crap. He had numerous opportunities to help the Dems put pressure on Bush to change his Strategy. Or lack there of. In his position in the Senate he could have helped provide oversight. But when push came to shove party loyalty and his political future prevailed. No to mention The Keating 5
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Talk about "Panderer-in-Chief"....He must be the poster child for P.J. O'Rourke's diatribe, "Parliament of Whores". And he has the audacity to point out Obama's "flip-flopping"? Puh-leeze! When they have footage of you contradicting yourself, you should never go there again. In McCain's case..there is goo-gobs.
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Talk about "Panderer-in-Chief"....He must be the poster child for P.J. O'Rourke's diatribe, "Parliament of Whores". And he has the audacity to point out Obama's "flip-flopping"? Puh-leeze! When they have footage of you contradicting yourself, you should never go there again. In McCain's case..there is goo-gobs.
The difference is that Obama pushed himself as a non-politician born of a virgin birth; never to do as others or act like the scum of the earth all politicians end up doing with skeletons in their closet...

We now see nothing can be further from the truth...Obama is not only just like every other politician, but is the poster child for backroom wheelings and dealings with criminals and subversives, is a first class panderer, and now we see him shifting his message because he's going from primary-mode to general-mode...

I'd rather have my car salesman tell me he wants to make money by selling me a car instead of telling me he's doing his job because he cares about humanity...
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The difference is that Obama pushed himself as a non-politician born of a virgin birth; never to do as others or act like the scum of the earth all politicians end up doing with skeletons in their closet...

We now see nothing can be further from the truth...Obama is not only just like every other politician, but is the poster child for backroom wheelings and dealings with criminals and subversives, is a first class panderer, and now we see him shifting his message because he's going from primary-mode to general-mode...

I'd rather have my car salesman tell me he wants to make money by selling me a car instead of telling me he's doing his job because he cares about humanity...
Well, guess what? Welcome to your next president, for at least 4 years.
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I have other problems with McCain. One of my major complaints is his phony maverick crap. He had numerous opportunities to help the Dems put pressure on Bush to change his Strategy. Or lack there of. In his position in the Senate he could have helped provide oversight. But when push came to shove party loyalty and his political future prevailed. No to mention The Keating 5
Heck I have a problem with both of them. B.S. promises.
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The difference is that Obama pushed himself as a non-politician born of a virgin birth; never to do as others or act like the scum of the earth all politicians end up doing with skeletons in their closet...

We now see nothing can be further from the truth...Obama is not only just like every other politician, but is the poster child for backroom wheelings and dealings with criminals and subversives, is a first class panderer, and now we see him shifting his message because he's going from primary-mode to general-mode...

I'd rather have my car salesman tell me he wants to make money by selling me a car instead of telling me he's doing his job because he cares about humanity...
DING... DING.... DING.... WE HAVE A WINNAH!!!

Sen. Obama's been hyping himself as the candidate for change, but the hard, cold reality is that he's a tool of the old school Dem. political machine. He's a sign of the same kind of stagnation in American politics (just shinier) that been the bane of our gov't for the last 50 years. While I don't agree with everything McCain has said or done, he has a proven track record of being an agent of change. He's ttod up to the political sytem and challenged it to change. Sen. Obama's just more of the some old, same old in a new package. Electing him will be like Christmas morning where all the shiny packages under the tree have gray socks in them.
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