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Default Allowing non service dogs everywhere

There's a push here to have public places allow non service dogs.

What the blank?

I love my dogs. But would never take them anywhere but a place where dogs are supposed to be. A PARK (or to the groomer or vet when needed obviously).

But never on a train, to the grocery store etc.

Main reason is PEOPLE CAN HAVE DOG ALLERGIES! Or be deathly afraid. If it's a service dog it's one thing. They are trained very well so they won't attack.

I saw someone in a newspaper comment section compare it to allowing bikes on trains.

Well

A. People legitimately need a bike on the train. My brother does not have a car and his office is a mile and a half from the train. He bikes from the train to the office both ways. In the worst weather he takes a taxi.

B. I've never heard of people with an allergy to bikes.

C. A bike has never attacked anyone.
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Oh and when I take the dogs to the vet or groomer I do not take public transit even though that's how I travel because I don't drive. I either arrange a ride or take a taxi (and they are in their carrier not on my lap even though they are bichon frises so can sit on my lap). I try and make the appointments on the same day and they are both at Petsmart so there's a mall where I do some shopping while they are being groomed or have lunch. And then be there with the vet for checkups.

Often my mom and I make a little afternoon of it. They get groomed and we go to the restaurant we both love that's 2 doors down and then pick them up and she takes me home.
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In Europe they are allowed almost anywhere - I wish they were in the US. I make an effort to train my dogs to behave well in public. Shoot, they're better behaved then some children.

Edited to add - the service dog thing is tricky also. There is NO regulation regarding service dogs. They can be trained, they can be "self trained" and they can be "registered" by an online service with absolutely no verification other than the owner's say-so.
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Here's the thing. PEOPLE ARE ALLERGIC TO DOGS and can die from an allergy attack.

People aren't allergic to children.

Also dogs can attack people. Even well trained ones.

And there are many dogs who aren't well trained.

I love my dogs too and they are well trained. But they stay at home when I go out.
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A funny story about my first bichon who died in 2005. He hated traditional dog biscuits so I always brought his favorite treats with me to the vet or groomer and would tell the vet or groomer to use them to reward him for good behavior.

One time the vet gave him a biscuit and he spit it out and hit the vet in the butt as he had turned around.
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Here's the thing. PEOPLE ARE ALLERGIC TO DOGS and can die from an allergy attack.

People aren't allergic to children.

Also dogs can attack people. Even well trained ones.

And there are many dogs who aren't well trained.

I love my dogs too and they are well trained. But they stay at home when I go out.
I see the point you make, yet it works in Europe - are people more tolerant? Dogs better behaved? If service dogs are allowed, the allergy issue can't be that serious.

I'd be willing to have my dogs pass a test for good behavior if that would allow access to more places.
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A funny story about my first bichon who died in 2005. He hated traditional dog biscuits so I always brought his favorite treats with me to the vet or groomer and would tell the vet or groomer to use them to reward him for good behavior.

One time the vet gave him a biscuit and he spit it out and hit the vet in the butt as he had turned around.
lol - I think your dog expressed his opinion....succinctly there
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I found out some really surprising stuff about service dogs recently. One was a dog we took into rescue. She was a 6 mos old pup, owners had moved and neighbors were placing the dog for them. She was a "service dog" - had a badge, harness and all. We thought that was odd, given her young age but figured ok - at least she will be well socialized. Turns out she was bought as a puppy for the family's autistic son, registered with this online organization where all you had to do was self-certify, and got an ID badge and harness over the internet. No training. We also had just this past year - two individuals with "self-trained" service dogs that were anything but trained, but they had the regalia and access.
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Until Old Yeller has passed through your cubicle to another in the ladies room, you have no idea how bad an idea this is.
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Default Re: Allowing non service dogs everywhere

I take my dogs with me almost everywhere.
They both go to work with me every day.

I would be all for allowing dogs most everywhere.
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