Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > General Forum > Opinions & Editorials
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Opinions & Editorials Discuss Dick Morris on the government shutdown at the General Forum; I believe Dick Morris is right on target as regarding President Obama's attempt to frame the issue of the government ...

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-09-2013, 10:09 AM
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tennessee
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,020
Thanks: 16,156
Thanked 5,621 Times in 3,593 Posts
Default Dick Morris on the government shutdown

I believe Dick Morris is right on target as regarding President Obama's attempt to frame the issue of the government shutdown in a way that is most favorable to his own position, by using weasel words in place of the unvarnished truth:

Quote:
As his battle with the Republicans focuses more on the debt limit and less on ObamaCare, the president has invented a new vocabulary to suit his political needs.

"Seeking to raise the debt limit" is out. "Preventing an economic shutdown" is in.

"Debt" is never mentioned. The word is "obligations". ...

The words "debt" and "borrowing" and "spending" are politically anathema. So Obama has to invent new words to describe his position. ...

All of these word games are designed to camouflage how unattractive the president's position really is. Every American understands that before your raise your credit limit on your cards, you had better limit your spending and change your ways.
Here is the link: http://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/h...=1&action=view
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to pjohns For This Useful Post:
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-09-2013, 10:48 AM
Conservative Sage
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 20,780
Thanks: 14,537
Thanked 15,856 Times in 9,072 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to AZRWinger
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Not only does our President distort the meaning of words to advance his agenda, he passes off ridiculous deceptions as fact such as "raising the debt ceiling doesn't mean more debt." Just because every time the debt ceiling goes up the debt increases is no reason to believe itwill happen again.
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to AZRWinger For This Useful Post:
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-09-2013, 11:03 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
Posts: 70,513
Thanks: 22,404
Thanked 18,923 Times in 13,938 Posts
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

OMG! You dug up Dick?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mikeyy For This Useful Post:
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 01:17 AM
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tennessee
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,020
Thanks: 16,156
Thanked 5,621 Times in 3,593 Posts
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
OMG! You dug up Dick?
A truly serious person would respond to the substance of his comments, rather than attempting an ad hominem attack upon the messenger.

But for someone placed in a position of having no reasoned rebuttal available, mere deflection may be the only remaining option...
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 01:24 AM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Esto perpetua
Posts: 88,679
Thanks: 57,320
Thanked 26,941 Times in 19,376 Posts
Send a message via AIM to saltwn Send a message via MSN to saltwn Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Quote:
Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
I believe Dick Morris is right on target as regarding President Obama's attempt to frame the issue of the government shutdown in a way that is most favorable to his own position, by using weasel words in place of the unvarnished truth:



Here is the link: http://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/h...=1&action=view
Of course you do , because you never try to find out what really goes on. You're just fed propaganda. And you comment sensibly as if the bs is also sensible and not distortions of reality.
__________________
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to saltwn For This Useful Post:
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 01:34 AM
Lollie's Avatar
She/Her/Woman
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Northern Ohio
Gender: Female
Posts: 18,928
Thanks: 15,812
Thanked 14,823 Times in 9,020 Posts
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Quote:
Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
A truly serious person would respond to the substance of his comments, rather than attempting an ad hominem attack upon the messenger.

But for someone placed in a position of having no reasoned rebuttal available, mere deflection may be the only remaining option...
I have been a fan of Dick Morris for a long time.
Daily Lunchtime Videos Archives - DickMorris.com archive at DickMorris.com

http://www.dickmorris.com/obamas-new-vocabulary/
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 02:13 AM
cnredd's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Posts: 57,381
Thanks: 2,468
Thanked 39,634 Times in 21,994 Posts
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeyy View Post
OMG! You dug up Dick?
I find it amazing you won't listen to a Clinton campaign manager, but you WILL listen to a host on a comedy show...Why not just come out say "I refuse to acknowledge anyone that doesn't throw rose petals before the president"?...It'll be the most honest thing you've said in all of your years here...

Point of order...I listen to NEITHER, but I recognize the logical difference...
__________________
"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to cnredd For This Useful Post:
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 02:35 AM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Esto perpetua
Posts: 88,679
Thanks: 57,320
Thanked 26,941 Times in 19,376 Posts
Send a message via AIM to saltwn Send a message via MSN to saltwn Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Quote:
Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
I believe Dick Morris is right on target as regarding President Obama's attempt to frame the issue of the government shutdown in a way that is most favorable to his own position, by using weasel words in place of the unvarnished truth:



Here is the link: http://web.mail.comcast.net/zimbra/h...=1&action=view
The United States debt ceiling or debt limit is a legislative mechanism to limit the amount of national debt that can be issued by the Treasury. Because expenditures are authorized by separate legislation, the debt ceiling does not directly limit budget deficits. In effect, it can only restrain Treasury from paying for expenditures after the limit has been reached, but which has already been approved (in the budget) and appropriated.


The United States has had some sort of legislative limit on debt since 1917. From time to time, political disputes arise when the Treasury advises Congress that the debt ceiling is about to be reached and indicating that a default is imminent. When the debt ceiling is reached, and pending an increase in the limit, Treasury may resort to "extraordinary measures" to buy more time before the ceiling can be raised by Congress. The United States has never reached the point of default where Treasury is incapable of paying its debt obligations. If this situation were to occur, it is unclear whether Treasury would be able to prioritize payments on debt to avoid a default on its debt obligations, but it would at least have to default on some of its non-debt obligations. A default could trigger a variety of economic problems including a financial crisis and a decline in output that would put the country into a recession.

wiki poo
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 05:14 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: PNW
Gender: Male
Posts: 70,513
Thanks: 22,404
Thanked 18,923 Times in 13,938 Posts
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Dick Morris is the definition of creepy. Eric Cantor is central castings definition of slimmy. When I see Cantor I think Eddie Haskell.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Mikeyy For This Useful Post:
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 10-10-2013, 10:46 AM
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tennessee
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,020
Thanks: 16,156
Thanked 5,621 Times in 3,593 Posts
Default Re: Dick Morris on the government shutdown

Quote:
Originally Posted by saltwn View Post
Of course you do , because you never try to find out what really goes on. You're just fed propaganda. And you comment sensibly as if the bs is also sensible and not distortions of reality.
Is there a reasoned rebuttal contained herein? (If there is, I must have missed it...)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to pjohns For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
dick, government, morris, shutdown, the

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0