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You sound like me a while back. I kept saying where's the beef? In the end none of those backgrounds are required to be POTUS. You can be a top executive and still run your company in to the ground, Exxon is a good example of that. You can have military experience and still walk in to a quagmire with eyes wide open. Or you can have none of those experiences and still make a great President. There is no set of experiences that make a great POTUS. Its how they deal with events that face them.
You're pointing out exceptions to the rule...

In ANY situation that arises, when the options are A) Going for someone with no experience...and B) going with someone with lots of experience...It would just plain dumb to go with option "A"...

Do these sound reasonable to you?...

"I know the general can command, but I'll let the private just out of boot camp lead the way"...

"This guy was a former CEO of two companies and an excellent candidate for the board to recommend, but we'll go with the guy with 2 years in the sales department instead."

Of course not...

Now is there a CHANCE the private would end up doing better than the general?...Of course...COULD the guy from sales do a better job than a former CEO?...absolutely...

But the CHANCES of that are remotely slim...And when it 95% against 5%, betting on the latter is just plain ignorant...It's a fashionable trend like betting on the 12th seed in the NCAA tournament...Saying "Well the 12th seed beat the 2nd seed once!" doesn't negate the 85 times they didn't...

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From the little I have seen. I like they way he handles himself. He is thoughtful it seems to me. And deliberative. And he seems intelligent. I only know him as well as you.
I know him for his actions...not his frilly words...

He says he's a uniter...Then sits in silence while his spiritual mentor condemns white people and the country...

He says he's for Israel...After sitting for many dinners in the house of Rashid Khalidi, then has a political advisor who was holding secret meetings with Hamas...

He says he'll defend America...after sitting on a board with and having a a political fundraiser in the home of a convicted terrorist who bombed the Pentagon...

He says doesn't accept PAC money...after 2/3 of his campaign cash in the Illinois Senate came from PACs...

He says he'll reach across the aisle...after his voting record was found to be the MOST liberal in all of the Senate...

YOU are just listening to the words...I see the actions...and they are 180 degrees from what he says...

And I must say...The sheep's clothing looks AMAZING!...

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But I have seen all of them play dirty except him. He doesn't seem to feel the need to attack people for advantage.
Why when everyone around him can do it?...Then he can claim ignorance time and time again about how he's just so SHOCKED (SHOCKED I say!) that his good friends and associates could ever say such things...

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Which seems mature for his age. And I like that way of dealing with situations. So as of right now I am going to give him my vote.
I am not a fanatic. I already have issue disagreements with Obama. But I think the number one issue is to stop the partisan gamesmanship.


NAME the last person to to "stop the partisan gamesmanship"!!!!

You slay me...

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It has gotten out of control over the past 15 years or so. And someone needs to put an end to it. At this time he seems most able to do that to me. So I wish him luck.

End of rant.
I wish him to go to another world...because the one he envisions this country to be in now is nothing more than the lyrics to John Lennon's "Imagine"...

Nice in the abstract...pointless...and ultimately damaging...in reality...
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You're pointing out exceptions to the rule...

In ANY situation that arises, when the options are A) Going for someone with no experience...and B) going with someone with lots of experience...It would just plain dumb to go with option "A"...

Do these sound reasonable to you?...

"I know the general can command, but I'll let the private just out of boot camp lead the way"...

"This guy was a former CEO of two companies and an excellent candidate for the board to recommend, but we'll go with the guy with 2 years in the sales department instead."

Of course not...

Now is there a CHANCE the private would end up doing better than the general?...Of course...COULD the guy from sales do a better job than a former CEO?...absolutely...

But the CHANCES of that are remotely slim...And when it 95% against 5%, betting on the latter is just plain ignorant...It's a fashionable trend like betting on the 12th seed in the NCAA tournament...Saying "Well the 12th seed beat the 2nd seed once!" doesn't negate the 85 times they didn't...

I know him for his actions...not his frilly words...

He says he's a uniter...Then sits in silence while his spiritual mentor condemns white people and the country...

He says he's for Israel...After sitting for many dinners in the house of Rashid Khalidi, then has a political advisor who was holding secret meetings with Hamas...

He says he'll defend America...after sitting on a board with and having a a political fundraiser in the home of a convicted terrorist who bombed the Pentagon...

He says doesn't accept PAC money...after 2/3 of his campaign cash in the Illinois Senate came from PACs...

He says he'll reach across the aisle...after his voting record was found to be the MOST liberal in all of the Senate...

YOU are just listening to the words...I see the actions...and they are 180 degrees from what he says...

And I must say...The sheep's clothing looks AMAZING!...

Why when everyone around him can do it?...Then he can claim ignorance time and time again about how he's just so SHOCKED (SHOCKED I say!) that his good friends and associates could ever say such things...



NAME the last person to to "stop the partisan gamesmanship"!!!!

You slay me...

I wish him to go to another world...because the one he envisions this country to be in now is nothing more than the lyrics to John Lennon's "Imagine"...

Nice in the abstract...pointless...and ultimately damaging...in reality...
You have yet to say why McCain is a general and Obama a private. LOL McCain wrecked something like five planes. Other then his capture and years in captivity he wasn't really doing too well. But you might be right given his pedigree, he would have been promoted regularly. But I think we know what camp your in. So lets agree to canceling each others votes out.
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