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Old 07-30-2013, 05:09 PM
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SO it was a Repbub trick to look like recess but not really? Thus another ourtrage?
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they tried to have it both ways, go home and not be out of session. cheater cheater punkin eater!
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I am not even going to pretend to understand the difference between proforma recess and recess...
The article cited indicated the distinction; quite clearly, I think:

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Wednesday’s ruling confirms previous appeals court opinions, which have declared that only the time between sessions of the Senate count as recesses for the purposes of presidential recess appointments. [Bold added]
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According to your article he withdrew his nominations and the Repubs agreed not to block the vote on a new nominee. I just dont see the outrage. if it was so illegal why did the Republicans agree to deal with him?
(1) President Obama's making a deal with Republican lawmakers cannot vitiate the fact that this is clearly a lawless administration.

(2) Three different courts have declared the president's actions here illegal; so it does not strike me as outrageous to suppose that they actually are illegal.

(3) I am guessing that GOP lawmakers decided to cut a deal with President Obama, rather than stand on principle, for purely political considerations. (No doubt, you will find such cynicism utterly shocking...)
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[Republican senators] tried to have it both ways, go home and not be out of session. cheater cheater punkin eater!
Actually, there is nothing at all rare about pro forma sessions in the US Senate.

Edwin Meese and Todd Gaziabo, writing in The Washington Post, put it very well, I think:

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Article I, Section 5, of the Constitution states that neither house of Congress may adjourn for more than three days without the consent of the other house. The House of Representatives did not consent to a Senate recess of more than three days at the end of last year, and so the Senate, consistent with the requirements of the Constitution, must have some sort of session every few days.

The president and anyone else may object that the Senate is conducting “pro forma” sessions, but that does not render them constitutionally meaningless, as some have argued. In fact, the Senate did pass a bill during a supposedly “pro forma” session on Dec. 23, a matter the White House took notice of since the president signed the bill into law. The president cannot pick and choose when he deems a Senate session to be “real.”

It does not matter one whit that most members of Congress are out of town and allow business to be conducted by their agents under unanimous consent procedures, because ending a session of Congress requires the passage of a formal resolution, which never occurred and could not have occurred without the consent of the House.
Here is the link: Obama’s recess appointments are unconstitutional - The Washington Post
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